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Old 09-01-2018 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
Ok sorry, Hurricane Irops then....better? Or just Jetblue irops in general.
We call those VFR days
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Old 09-02-2018 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by EuroMexPilot
Can you please elaborate on your observation? I just scanned through and didn't see a huge change except a lot of 3 days that pay 15 hours now vs. 10 hours before.
Tons of circadian flips—they’ve built most of the scud that typically ends up in open time, into 4-5 day pairings.

I’m seeing a majority of trips on the 320 with total circadian flips bt early AM flying and late-night redeyes—everything looks insanely fatiguing/extremely hard on your body. If this becomes status quo I’m honestly considering going to the 190.

Just my humble opinion on these pairings
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Old 09-02-2018 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DontCallMeCindy
Tons of circadian flips—they’ve built most of the scud that typically ends up in open time, into 4-5 day pairings.

I’m seeing a majority of trips on the 320 with total circadian flips bt early AM flying and late-night redeyes—everything looks insanely fatiguing/extremely hard on your body. If this becomes status quo I’m honestly considering going to the 190.

Just my humble opinion on these pairings
If it’s fatiguing call in fatigued. If enough people are fatigued because of the trip they will stop doing it. Not that hard
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Old 09-02-2018 | 02:15 PM
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OK. That is a metric $h!t ton of 3-4 day trips. Hope everyone likes being away from home.

Another award winning CBA provision brought to you by B6ALPA.

The fun has just begun. Only 4-8 years until our next contract so get used to it. Good thing y'all we're in such a hurry to vote yes.
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Old 09-02-2018 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
OK. That is a metric $h!t ton of 3-4 day trips. Hope everyone likes being away from home.

Another award winning CBA provision brought to you by B6ALPA.

The fun has just begun. Only 4-8 years until our next contract so get used to it. Good thing y'all we're in such a hurry to vote yes.
That actually helps me so I like it so far.
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Old 09-02-2018 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
That actually helps me so I like it so far.
You were having a tough time getting 3-4 day trips before?
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Old 09-02-2018 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
You were having a tough time getting 3-4 day trips before?
No just better 4 days ha
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Old 09-02-2018 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PasserOGas
OK. That is a metric $h!t ton of 3-4 day trips. Hope everyone likes being away from home.

Another award winning CBA provision brought to you by B6ALPA.

The fun has just begun. Only 4-8 years until our next contract so get used to it. Good thing y'all we're in such a hurry to vote yes.
Not sure what base you're looking at but BOS 320/190 is divided up fairly evenly. About 50% of the Bus pairings in Boston are 1 and 2 days for October....e190 was about 40%. Most of the 4 day pairings in the bid packet are operated once a month, so those pairings take up more space in the packet. Whereas that ATL turn, while only listed once, is operated almost everyday.
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Old 09-02-2018 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
Not sure what base you're looking at but BOS 320/190 is divided up fairly evenly. About 50% of the Bus pairings in Boston are 1 and 2 days for October....e190 was about 40%. Most of the 4 day pairings in the bid packet are operated once a month, so those pairings take up more space in the packet. Whereas that ATL turn, while only listed once, is operated almost everyday.
Most of the four days haven’t changed much at all... still crappy. Or at least bos 190.
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Old 09-03-2018 | 03:47 AM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer
Most of the four days haven’t changed much at all... still crappy. Or at least bos 190.
Correct. I was just talking about pairing distribution since some thought it would be 50% 4 day trips at each base. For October at least that was proven false. I agree though....even with the redeyes and day sleeps, I'd take an Airbus 4-day over a 190 one anyday.

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