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Old 05-09-2019, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer View Post
Yep. Honestly I don’t care where we fly. Whether it be Europe or the DR. Just make money hand over and fist and share that with the people who are the frontline who make it possible to make that money.
I dig it.

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Old 05-09-2019, 03:23 PM
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Is that like our union polling our pilot group to determine what they are willing to accept less on?

Guess what. Leaders lead. It’s time for JB to grow up and stop being a NY/BOS boutique airline. There’s endless route pairings that JB could explore to expand their brand nationally. They’re inherently lazy and risk averse. Goes along with the inept leadership team driving this boat so pretty much par for the course around here.
Actually no. It isn’t.

But if you can do a better job I highly encourage you to get into route planning and do something better. I’m sure they’re looking for project pilots as we speak.
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Old 05-09-2019, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by hilltopflyer View Post
Yep. Honestly I don’t care where we fly. Whether it be Europe or the DR. Just make money hand over and fist and share that with the people who are the frontline who make it possible to make that money.
This. IDGAflyingF where we go. As long as it turns profit.
If we can make bank. Go.
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Old 05-09-2019, 03:44 PM
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Actually no. It isn’t.

But if you can do a better job I highly encourage you to get into route planning and do something better. I’m sure they’re looking for project pilots as we speak.

Actually, yeah, it is. But that's okay.



Been there, done that. Time for someone else to take the reins.
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Old 05-09-2019, 04:04 PM
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This. IDGAflyingF where we go. As long as it turns profit.
If we can make bank. Go.
That’s all fine, but Our flight schedules suck! I don’t want anymore redeyes or 2am departures.
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Old 05-09-2019, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16 View Post
Is that like our union polling our pilot group to determine what they are willing to accept less on?

Guess what. Leaders lead. It’s time for JB to grow up and stop being a NY/BOS boutique airline. There’s endless route pairings that JB could explore to expand their brand nationally. They’re inherently lazy and risk averse. Goes along with the inept leadership team driving this boat so pretty much par for the course around here.
Risk adverse is a little strong. If Jetblue was flying transcons using the classic A320’s since the business class market is too competitive....or had a bunch of E2 orders on the books, or decided London wasn’t worth it then I’d agree with you. Maybe slow to make decision is better.
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Risk adverse is a little strong. If Jetblue was flying transcons using the classic A320’s since the business class market is too competitive....or had a bunch of E2 orders on the books, or decided London wasn’t worth it then I’d agree with you. Maybe slow to make decision is better.
Fair..............
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London is classic risk aversion.

The LR is a neo with an additional act.

London is just “the next mint route”.
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Old 05-10-2019, 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by nuball5 View Post
Risk adverse is a little strong. If Jetblue was flying transcons using the classic A320’s since the business class market is too competitive....or had a bunch of E2 orders on the books, or decided London wasn’t worth it then I’d agree with you. Maybe slow to make decision is better.
This company makes lots of risky moves, but they aren't the kind a growing airline should make.

1. $1.5 Billion stock buyback at the height of a bull market.

2. Hundreds of millions gambling on money losing startups in the new tech bubble.

3. Testing how little they can put into the maintenance budget until a mishap occurs.

4. Making a lawyer with no airline experience COO.

5. Going to war with their front line employees over nickels and dimes to pay for the above, when the business model relies heavily on customer service.

See? Not risk averse.
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork View Post
London is classic risk aversion.

The LR is a neo with an additional act.

London is just “the next mint route”.
^^^Exactly this

They even said as much on one of the earnings calls. Look at the top O&D destinations from BOS that B6 doesn't serve, most of them are Europe with London being very high up the list. Our Europe expansion is about serving the BOS/JFK markets, not about serving Europe.
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