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05-10-2019, 02:14 PM
#41
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Originally Posted by Softpayman
Who knew operational excellence was required for the Atlantic market. Exactly what level just so we all know??
The LR fleet will be fairly small, and won't be subject to delay programs/ground stops. I can't think of another US carrier with higher exposure to delays than us, if you could erase EDCTS from our network you'd see a noticeable jump in on-time. If that gets you within 10% on-time of your competition, you think your average customer really notices? Airline A has an 8/10 chance of getting you to London on time, Airline B has a 9/10 chance.
The LR fleet will be fairly small, and won't be subject to delay programs/ground stops. I can't think of another US carrier with higher exposure to delays than us, if you could erase EDCTS from our network you'd see a noticeable jump in on-time. If that gets you within 10% on-time of your competition, you think your average customer really notices? Airline A has an 8/10 chance of getting you to London on time, Airline B has a 9/10 chance.
05-10-2019, 03:23 PM
#42
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
To/from London might not be too big of a deal to keep on-time, but God help anyone who books a connection on JB with less than 4 hours connection time.
05-10-2019, 05:50 PM
#44
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
The majority of our TATL traffic will be O/D.
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05-10-2019, 05:52 PM
#45
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Originally Posted by Softpayman
In general if you're going to JFK/BOS on any carrier, you need to make sure you have above average connection time. That's if you're coming from Rochester on a Jetblue E190 or Syracuse on a Delta Connection operated by Endevour RJ.
Or you can miss your flight. It's up to you.
05-10-2019, 06:06 PM
#46
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
What you're saying is somewhat true, but there is no possible way to look at the us carrier on-time statistics and come to the conclusion that you better have even longer connection times on JB.
Or you can miss your flight. It's up to you.
Or you can miss your flight. It's up to you.
05-10-2019, 06:28 PM
#47
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Originally Posted by nuball5
Except for the fact that they’re designing a new business class for these transatlantic flights....”Mint Plus” or maybe they’ll call it something different. Plus all the logistics of an Etops program and getting that approved by the FAA. Also the backlash from the Big 3 to ensure Jetblue isn’t successful in this endeavor. Other than that you’re right, zero risk, just another mint route.
I am right!
It's just the next mint route in an aircraft we will operate in a few months with an extra gas tank and fancy pants paperwork and a day or so of extra training for a small cadre of pilots who are already typed.
Risk-averse!!!
05-10-2019, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork
Correct!
I am right!
It's just the next mint route in an aircraft we will operate in a few months with an extra gas tank and fancy pants paperwork and a day or so of extra training for a small cadre of pilots who are already typed.
Risk-averse!!!
I am right!
It's just the next mint route in an aircraft we will operate in a few months with an extra gas tank and fancy pants paperwork and a day or so of extra training for a small cadre of pilots who are already typed.
Risk-averse!!!
Guess we’ll have to agree to disagree on whether they’re taking a risk or not. You’re kinda missing the point talking about how our pilots are already Airbus typed/additional ppwk. We can obviously fly to London easily, we just need to be profitable doing it while everyone else is trying hard to crush us. Will failing in London while adding a completely new fleet type to the mix shut the airline down? I doubt it. Will it hurt the bottom line and look bad publicly...absolutely. Next few years I think will be make or break or Jetblue. If the A220 rollout and London don’t go well, a merger or sale won’t be far behind.
05-10-2019, 08:15 PM
#49
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I think we agree.
However it seems you think risk aversion means no risk.
I’m saying risk aversion is the behavior of humans when exposed to uncertainty, attempt to lower that uncertainty.
The LR and TATL vs A330 and TATL is an attempt to lower the uncertainty - risk.
It is just the next mint route.
However it seems you think risk aversion means no risk.
I’m saying risk aversion is the behavior of humans when exposed to uncertainty, attempt to lower that uncertainty.
The LR and TATL vs A330 and TATL is an attempt to lower the uncertainty - risk.
It is just the next mint route.
05-11-2019, 05:06 AM
#50
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork
I think we agree.
However it seems you think risk aversion means no risk.
I’m saying risk aversion is the behavior of humans when exposed to uncertainty, attempt to lower that uncertainty.
The LR and TATL vs A330 and TATL is an attempt to lower the uncertainty - risk.
It is just the next mint route.
However it seems you think risk aversion means no risk.
I’m saying risk aversion is the behavior of humans when exposed to uncertainty, attempt to lower that uncertainty.
The LR and TATL vs A330 and TATL is an attempt to lower the uncertainty - risk.
It is just the next mint route.
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