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05-10-2019, 05:16 AM
#31
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork
London is classic risk aversion.
The LR is a neo with an additional act.
London is just “the next mint route”.
The LR is a neo with an additional act.
London is just “the next mint route”.
05-10-2019, 05:27 AM
#32
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Originally Posted by nuball5
Except for the fact that they’re designing a new business class for these transatlantic flights....”Mint Plus” or maybe they’ll call it something different. Plus all the logistics of an Etops program and getting that approved by the FAA. Also the backlash from the Big 3 to ensure Jetblue isn’t successful in this endeavor. Other than that you’re right, zero risk, just another mint route.
is more of an A321 door config change than a TATL reason. ETOPS is a fixed cost, and competition is something we are used to.I can’t think of a lower risk growth opportunity to be honest.
05-10-2019, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
RefreshMint is more of an A321 door config change than a TATL reason. ETOPS is a fixed cost, and competition is something we are used to.
is more of an A321 door config change than a TATL reason. ETOPS is a fixed cost, and competition is something we are used to.
). Its not a risk. That being said. We are a very risky airline. Heck, we fly red eyes into South America with broken airplanes. What we lack is belief in our ability to compete in new US markets.
05-10-2019, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
RefreshMint is more of an A321 door config change than a TATL reason. ETOPS is a fixed cost, and competition is something we are used to.
I can’t think of a lower risk growth opportunity to be honest.
is more of an A321 door config change than a TATL reason. ETOPS is a fixed cost, and competition is something we are used to.I can’t think of a lower risk growth opportunity to be honest.
05-10-2019, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
Refreshmint....I like it! I think there’s a real chance that Jetblue falls flat on their face with this. Being successful in the Transatlantic market requires operational excellence, something Jetblue doesn’t have in spades. That’s why I think there’s a big risk.
05-10-2019, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
You do realize there are other areas in the country that make money, right? Or are we too myopic and completely risk averse that we have to hike up our skirts and run away in the face of new routes?
05-10-2019, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
RefreshMint is more of an A321 door config change than a TATL reason. ETOPS is a fixed cost, and competition is something we are used to.
I can’t think of a lower risk growth opportunity to be honest.
is more of an A321 door config change than a TATL reason. ETOPS is a fixed cost, and competition is something we are used to.I can’t think of a lower risk growth opportunity to be honest.
05-10-2019, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
Yeah but is there anything wrong with a low risk growth route? They better do it otherwise you are just letting someone else take that money
05-10-2019, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
Being successful in the Transatlantic market requires operational excellence, something Jetblue doesn’t have in spades. That’s why I think there’s a big risk.
05-10-2019, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by nuball5
Refreshmint....I like it! I think there’s a real chance that Jetblue falls flat on their face with this. Being successful in the Transatlantic market requires operational excellence, something Jetblue doesn’t have in spades. That’s why I think there’s a big risk.
The LR fleet will be fairly small, and won't be subject to delay programs/ground stops. I can't think of another US carrier with higher exposure to delays than us, if you could erase EDCTS from our network you'd see a noticeable jump in on-time. If that gets you within 10% on-time of your competition, you think your average customer really notices? Airline A has an 8/10 chance of getting you to London on time, Airline B has a 9/10 chance.
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