Agreed but thankfully the union does

 

I apologize these last two comments where for the Frontier section. Can’t separate all the 321xr topics anymore

 

You know you can go back and edit/delete posts, right?

 

I’m talking more fo then captains. If they have to keep retraining people.

 

Why PHL/RDU Europe? Run me through the logic on that please.

 

I think he thought this was the Frontier forum and accidentally dilvulged their master plans of long Range domination out of PHL/RDU etc with their XLR’s

 

Man the internets is complicated.

 

In general I agree with this analysis. However there are some subtle differences that would at least open the door to the possibility of not doing the 12 hour aircraft sit.

Even with the XLR this isn't a NY/BOS to deep S.America aircraft. Florida to NE Brazil definitely, to the Brazilian population hubs of Sao Paulo, Rio, & Brasilia yes. Possibly Buenos Aires/Santiago.

Those could be evening departures (5-8pm) that land past midnight in those cities. Plane sits for a few hours for an early morning departure back North. Now being a narrow body, this AC could run more economically on a FLL-JFK/BOS flight to follow. Keeps aircraft utilization high which JB likes to do.

Look more at what American does with it's 757 out of Miami rather than what American/United do with their 777's and 767's out of the NY area to S America as an analogy to what we'd do with an XLR. American 757's leave MIA at 7pm and 4pm for Brasilia and Santa Cruz for example. Other Brazilian carriers do fly daytime to the US as well.

 

Sneaking a Florida round trip in to get utilization up sounds like a great way to ruin the on-time performance of your flagship long-haul flights...

Which means JB is going to do it.

 

Yeah, better to have a plane sit 12 hours doing nothing and get a 90% on time vs the plane actually making money and having a 80% on time.

(What's a flagship long haul flight?? You must have this mistaken for the Concord and 1978).

Again look at how 757s get utilized. They don't sit for 12 hours. There aren't 757's sitting in Buenos Aires, Rio or Sao Paulo all day waiting for return flights. The 757's that UAL/AA/DAL use go to Europe from NY as well as head West to Denver/SFO during the day.