321 xlr
06-20-2019, 08:25 AM
#71
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Originally Posted by SaturnV
Sure. Agreed 100%. It’s not growth on the 320 Fleet but nice to see us doubling down on our long range ambitions. I’m guessing more LR/XLR flying gives the pilot group more options. I personally don’t have the urge to fly red eyes to Europe and back 3 times a month but if all the guys senior to me bid to that category I’m ok with that. But true if we park some of the classic 320’s down the road then this news is just meh.
06-20-2019, 08:49 AM
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I know pricing is different for every carrier, but does anyone have any insight as to what the price difference could be between the LR and XLR? It makes sense to me to convert every LR order to XLR to give flexibility for future route growth. Are they removing seats or payload to accommodate the extra fuel or something? Looking for some education. Thanks.
06-20-2019, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by ThreeStripe
I know pricing is different for every carrier, but does anyone have any insight as to what the price difference could be between the LR and XLR? It makes sense to me to convert every LR order to XLR to give flexibility for future route growth. Are they removing seats or payload to accommodate the extra fuel or something? Looking for some education. Thanks.
Differences:
Has a permanent rear center tank for more fuel; this holds more fuel than several optional additional center tanks previously did, while taking up less space in the cargo hold, making more space for baggage and cargo
Has a modified landing gear for an increased maximum takeoff weight of 101 metric tons
Has an optimized wing trailing-edge flap configuration to preserve the same takeoff performance and engine thrust requirements as today’s A321neo
06-20-2019, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
Yes. But keep it in perspective. Those 26 LR/XLR aircraft were already coming as A321 Mint or HD. So no additional growth, just conversions from regularly scheduled A321 deliveries.
The 10 A220s are growth, unless they coincide with old A320 retirements.
Good news yes, but keep it all in perspective.
The 10 A220s are growth, unless they coincide with old A320 retirements.
Good news yes, but keep it all in perspective.
06-20-2019, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ThreeStripe
I know pricing is different for every carrier, but does anyone have any insight as to what the price difference could be between the LR and XLR? It makes sense to me to convert every LR order to XLR to give flexibility for future route growth. Are they removing seats or payload to accommodate the extra fuel or something? Looking for some education. Thanks.
06-20-2019, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS
And don't forget, the XLR won't debut until 2023, and we are far from first in the chute. Wouldn't it be more likely for us to get our first XLR 2024 or after?
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06-20-2019, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS
And don't forget, the XLR won't debut until 2023, and we are far from first in the chute. Wouldn't it be more likely for us to get our first XLR 2024 or after?
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