New Reserve Rules
08-20-2019, 04:58 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
I’ll say it again, but more clearly...
Have very low expectations. Reserve at many regionals is better, with better rules, and more opportunities to make money. The only good thing is that that generally don’t change your schedule too much once you’ve been given a trip... but wait! With new 25.R rules they will more often since reserves lost EPS on every day but the last day (if the company extended you in any way outside your footprint for the trip they gave you, you were fairly well financially rewarded. Not anymore).
Have very low expectations. Reserve at many regionals is better, with better rules, and more opportunities to make money. The only good thing is that that generally don’t change your schedule too much once you’ve been given a trip... but wait! With new 25.R rules they will more often since reserves lost EPS on every day but the last day (if the company extended you in any way outside your footprint for the trip they gave you, you were fairly well financially rewarded. Not anymore).
This is fake news and not EVEN close to reality....
08-20-2019, 05:42 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by jamesholzhauer
What do you think isn’t correct about it? It’s actually pretty accurate?
Pilots on RSV can make a LOT more money here. Personally, I have gotten EPS once in the past year. One EMA, which won't change next month. No biggie. A single VDA blows EPS outta the water.
08-20-2019, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS
Is it? His previous regional had ready RSV, sitting in an airport half a day. Those pilots sit RSV for over a year, up to 18 months.
Pilots on RSV can make a LOT more money here. Personally, I have gotten EPS once in the past year. One EMA, which won't change next month. No biggie. A single VDA blows EPS outta the water.
Pilots on RSV can make a LOT more money here. Personally, I have gotten EPS once in the past year. One EMA, which won't change next month. No biggie. A single VDA blows EPS outta the water.
08-20-2019, 05:58 PM
#26
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS
Is it? His previous regional had ready RSV, sitting in an airport half a day. Those pilots sit RSV for over a year, up to 18 months.
Pilots on RSV can make a LOT more money here. Personally, I have gotten EPS once in the past year. One EMA, which won't change next month. No biggie. A single VDA blows EPS outta the water.
Pilots on RSV can make a LOT more money here. Personally, I have gotten EPS once in the past year. One EMA, which won't change next month. No biggie. A single VDA blows EPS outta the water.
Yeah, there was airport reserve. That sucked. But I’d take that with everything else.
The amount of time is irrelevant when comparing RULES. I plan on sitting rsv here for 12 months.
And I have already been EMAd twice within a month.
EPS is more important. VDA is you helping the company staff for less.
EPS forced them to staff correctly and honor your schedule.
08-20-2019, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
That previous airline also allowed open time pick ups for reserves at 150% above guarantee. They had long call YEARS before we do. It had a reserve grid that allowed for trading and wasn’t immediately all red. It allowed for commuting in during your RAP. It had positive space travel for all commuters on your second attempt. We weren’t bombarded DAILY with requests to pick up RSAs like it’s our duty.
Yeah, there was airport reserve. That sucked. But I’d take that with everything else.
The amount of time is irrelevant when comparing RULES. I plan on sitting rsv here for 12 months.
And I have already been EMAd twice within a month.
EPS is more important. VDA is you helping the company staff for less.
EPS forced them to staff correctly and honor your schedule.
Yeah, there was airport reserve. That sucked. But I’d take that with everything else.
The amount of time is irrelevant when comparing RULES. I plan on sitting rsv here for 12 months.
And I have already been EMAd twice within a month.
EPS is more important. VDA is you helping the company staff for less.
EPS forced them to staff correctly and honor your schedule.
Yes, 150% for RSV before JB had it. Relax, it's coming.
Long call IF you can hold it. RSV grid, I agree with, ours sucks every month. But still allows for trades.
You can commute in during your RAP here, too. And your regional required TWO flights, even on own metal, right? JB only one. Positive space commute on #2 was a recent addition, as was higher priority than DL retirees.
Yes, RSA emails are annoying. Learn how to use an email filter, and you won't even notice them.
You may enjoy sitting in uniform at an airport with a 15 minute callout, and that's ok. I prefer sitting in my house in my underwear with 2.5 hours advance notice.
EPS is important to you? Did you have it at your regional? EPS doesn't force the company to change staffing. They just pay more to fix the daily operation than had they actually staffed properly.
08-20-2019, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS
Your airline also had ALPA and a contract before JB, right? And was modeled after the parent, Delta.
Yes, 150% for RSV before JB had it. Relax, it's coming.
Long call IF you can hold it. RSV grid, I agree with, ours sucks every month. But still allows for trades.
You can commute in during your RAP here, too. And your regional required TWO flights, even on own metal, right? JB only one. Positive space commute on #2 was a recent addition, as was higher priority than DL retirees.
Yes, RSA emails are annoying. Learn how to use an email filter, and you won't even notice them.
You may enjoy sitting in uniform at an airport with a 15 minute callout, and that's ok. I prefer sitting in my house in my underwear with 2.5 hours advance notice.
EPS is important to you? Did you have it at your regional? EPS doesn't force the company to change staffing. They just pay more to fix the daily operation than had they actually staffed properly.
Yes, 150% for RSV before JB had it. Relax, it's coming.
Long call IF you can hold it. RSV grid, I agree with, ours sucks every month. But still allows for trades.
You can commute in during your RAP here, too. And your regional required TWO flights, even on own metal, right? JB only one. Positive space commute on #2 was a recent addition, as was higher priority than DL retirees.
Yes, RSA emails are annoying. Learn how to use an email filter, and you won't even notice them.
You may enjoy sitting in uniform at an airport with a 15 minute callout, and that's ok. I prefer sitting in my house in my underwear with 2.5 hours advance notice.
EPS is important to you? Did you have it at your regional? EPS doesn't force the company to change staffing. They just pay more to fix the daily operation than had they actually staffed properly.
08-20-2019, 06:42 PM
#29
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip
Go ahead and explain.
I would love to be wrong.
I would love to be wrong.
08-20-2019, 06:44 PM
#30
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Originally Posted by 360KIAS
Your airline also had ALPA and a contract before JB, right? And was modeled after the parent, Delta.
Yes, 150% for RSV before JB had it. Relax, it's coming.
Long call IF you can hold it. RSV grid, I agree with, ours sucks every month. But still allows for trades.
You can commute in during your RAP here, too. And your regional required TWO flights, even on own metal, right? JB only one. Positive space commute on #2 was a recent addition, as was higher priority than DL retirees.
Yes, RSA emails are annoying. Learn how to use an email filter, and you won't even notice them.
You may enjoy sitting in uniform at an airport with a 15 minute callout, and that's ok. I prefer sitting in my house in my underwear with 2.5 hours advance notice.
EPS is important to you? Did you have it at your regional? EPS doesn't force the company to change staffing. They just pay more to fix the daily operation than had they actually staffed properly.
Yes, 150% for RSV before JB had it. Relax, it's coming.
Long call IF you can hold it. RSV grid, I agree with, ours sucks every month. But still allows for trades.
You can commute in during your RAP here, too. And your regional required TWO flights, even on own metal, right? JB only one. Positive space commute on #2 was a recent addition, as was higher priority than DL retirees.
Yes, RSA emails are annoying. Learn how to use an email filter, and you won't even notice them.
You may enjoy sitting in uniform at an airport with a 15 minute callout, and that's ok. I prefer sitting in my house in my underwear with 2.5 hours advance notice.
EPS is important to you? Did you have it at your regional? EPS doesn't force the company to change staffing. They just pay more to fix the daily operation than had they actually staffed properly.
There is nothing in our contract that specifically allows for SCL pilots to commute in during their RAP. Nothing. Period.
Further, you were able to bid for AMs or PMs for the entire month. Not this silo garbage we have here. Everyday my times change. I knew what my entire month looked like. AND we were guaranteed an early release on the last day.
But please, keep defending our subpar contract that can’t even compete with regional reserve work rules.
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