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Old 02-06-2020 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Brickhut
I seem to remember that, back in the day, the uniform shirt was actually the same shade as the current TSA royal blue? Also, saw more than a few pilots with goatees back then. Was there a time when facial hair, other than a mustache, was allowed?
Yes, those shirts came out right before the TSA had new shirts, which just so happened to be almost the exact same color. They were awful for so many reasons. We had lots of guys with goatees, long hair, dreadlocks. It was (is?) a motley crew.
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Old 02-06-2020 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
We had lots of guys with goatees, long hair, dreadlocks. It was (is?) a motley crew.
Can’t tell if you’re being serious or not. My sister in law worked for you guys in the mid -2000’s, and I did a ton of pass-riding back then when I was a corporate guy. Never saw dreadlocks or long hair, but saw a few goats.
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Old 02-06-2020 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueJetDork
Which is what they are counting on.

Our values, character and integrity are a weakness to this type of management style.

JetBlue used to supply a quality uniform that fit and tailored them.

Now they don’t. Solution? They pilot group will do it.

Pilots enabling management has a greater affect on the profession than my ballon power blue shirt.
Yeah, you’ll really show them by looking like a slob. It just gives them more ammo at the negotiating table.

If you want to look like or act like a circus clown expect to get paid peanuts. ALPA guidance is to look like a commensurate professional at all times.
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Old 02-06-2020 | 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by contrails12
Yeah, you’ll really show them by looking like a slob. It just gives them more ammo at the negotiating table.

If you want to look like or act like a circus clown expect to get paid peanuts. ALPA guidance is to look like a commensurate professional at all times.
How does looking like a slob in the uniform that they have picked out and supply give them negotiating power?
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Old 02-06-2020 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 1sttimer
How does looking like a slob in the uniform that they have picked out and supply give them negotiating power?
talking about getting it tailored if necessary
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Old 02-06-2020 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Brickhut
Can’t tell if you’re being serious or not. My sister in law worked for you guys in the mid -2000’s, and I did a ton of pass-riding back then when I was a corporate guy. Never saw dreadlocks or long hair, but saw a few goats.
Yep, I flew with some long-ish hair guys. I only saw the dreads once in the JFK terminal. Goats were pretty common
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Old 02-06-2020 | 05:28 PM
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We have a former district attorney/lawyer who is an FO in LGB who has a greasy mohawk. Guess things don’t change much here with a few who like ridiculous hair.
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Old 02-06-2020 | 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by contrails12
Yeah, you’ll really show them by looking like a slob. It just gives them more ammo at the negotiating table.

If you want to look like or act like a circus clown expect to get paid peanuts. ALPA guidance is to look like a commensurate professional at all times.
A few years during the great “cotton shortage” we we losing pilots left and right. Their used uniforms were “organized” in huge pile and new hires were told to rummage though and find shirts that fit.


Remember the plastic shirts. Those were “high tech”. Guys went out on bought their own. I just wore the old shirt

That is the model.

Let’s all fix it! Ha ha ha ha ha!

You just don’t understand that is great leadership and management in their minds.

This issue has been going on for well over a decade.

When are the rain coats arriving! They said they were at the same time “allowing” us to bring our own.

What was the real solution?

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Old 02-06-2020 | 08:18 PM
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I hope y'all are as worked up about scope during the next contract as you are uniforms.
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Old 02-06-2020 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Yes, those shirts came out right before the TSA had new shirts, which just so happened to be almost the exact same color. They were awful for so many reasons. We had lots of guys with goatees, long hair, dreadlocks. It was (is?) a motley crew.
Don’t forget greasy mohawks...
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