No.
02-07-2021 | 03:20 PM
#222
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No.
Maybe it was our MEC chairman’s complete trust in the ELT to do the right thing?
Maybe just how terrible of a speaker he is? Doesn’t exactly instill a level of competency.
Maybe we could just feel his desperation?
Send it back. Get solid language. Get compensation worth our relief.
Not against the NEA. It just needs a few changes.
02-07-2021 | 03:34 PM
#223
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Look at 3:15-4:20. And remember, even if you think our current management is well intentioned and acting in good faith (and they may very well be), we will almost certainly have different management within the next 5-10 years....possibly sooner. I don’t like the length of this deal, but unfortunately I don’t see that changing. In that case, the language needs to be air tight. As the chairman just reminded us, we’re giving section 1 relief the company needs all for a 2% pay raise next year to ‘bring us more inline with our peers’. That’s not a chance I’m willing to take for a 2% one-time raise.
02-07-2021 | 04:37 PM
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From: blueJet
At the two minute mark:
”The union’s role is to make sure this partnership complies with our CBA...”
No, the opposite is true. This TA is making sure our CBA complies with the partnership.
“...and to take measures to protect pilots from business decisions that are made...”
No. This TA surrenders much of the language designed to protect pilots from business decisions... and does so for the next 10-plus years.
Still a no.
”The union’s role is to make sure this partnership complies with our CBA...”
No, the opposite is true. This TA is making sure our CBA complies with the partnership.
“...and to take measures to protect pilots from business decisions that are made...”
No. This TA surrenders much of the language designed to protect pilots from business decisions... and does so for the next 10-plus years.
Still a no.
02-07-2021 | 04:42 PM
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At the two minute mark:
”The union’s role is to make sure this partnership complies with our CBA...”
No, the opposite is true. This TA is making sure our CBA complies with the partnership.
“...and to take measures to protect pilots from business decisions that are made...”
No. This TA surrenders much of the language designed to protect pilots from business decisions... and does so for the next 10-plus years.
Still a no.
”The union’s role is to make sure this partnership complies with our CBA...”
No, the opposite is true. This TA is making sure our CBA complies with the partnership.
“...and to take measures to protect pilots from business decisions that are made...”
No. This TA surrenders much of the language designed to protect pilots from business decisions... and does so for the next 10-plus years.
Still a no.
Excellent assessment
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02-08-2021 | 02:26 AM
#227
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Maybe it was our MEC chairman’s complete trust in the ELT to do the right thing?
Maybe just how terrible of a speaker he is? Doesn’t exactly instill a level of competency.
Maybe we could just feel his desperation?
Send it back. Get solid language. Get compensation worth our relief.
Not against the NEA. It just needs a few changes.
Maybe just how terrible of a speaker he is? Doesn’t exactly instill a level of competency.
Maybe we could just feel his desperation?
Send it back. Get solid language. Get compensation worth our relief.
Not against the NEA. It just needs a few changes.
02-08-2021 | 07:18 AM
#228
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Look at 3:15-4:20. And remember, even if you think our current management is well intentioned and acting in good faith (and they may very well be), we will almost certainly have different management within the next 5-10 years....possibly sooner. I don’t like the length of this deal, but unfortunately I don’t see that changing. In that case, the language needs to be air tight. As the chairman just reminded us, we’re giving section 1 relief the company needs all for a 2% pay raise next year to ‘bring us more inline with our peers’. That’s not a chance I’m willing to take for a 2% one-time raise.
Also, definitely a tacit admission that our CBA undervalued us financially, which I don’t recall being the party line then.
As to his other comments regarding his halting speaking style, I would suggest giving him a break… the reason he’s reading a statement, rather than speaking to us extemporaneously, is because ALPA legal has to vet every single thing that comes out of their mouths at this point for their legal protection. It’s a lot easier to have lawyers approve a written statement and then read it, than it is to record your remarks, have legal watch it, make notes, and then re-record it ad nauseam.
02-08-2021 | 07:52 AM
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From: blueJet
Having watched the Chairman’s video several times, I think the most pertinent information is at the 3:15 mark:
”So, are there long term threats? Is there something down the road that management could manipulate?
We can not say (see?) what the future actions by management might be, or if they’ll attempt to exploit something.
They are responsible for acting in good faith and honoring their agreements...”
They’ve had two weeks to address this huge hole in LOA 13 and this is the best they can come up with: They admit the hole is there... and they have no plan to address it.
Surrender our Scope to get through COVID, and then spend the next decade playing damage control? That’s not a valid plan.
They need to learn to multitask. Don’t sacrifice our long term CBA for short term gains. Protect us now and in the long term.
”So, are there long term threats? Is there something down the road that management could manipulate?
We can not say (see?) what the future actions by management might be, or if they’ll attempt to exploit something.
They are responsible for acting in good faith and honoring their agreements...”
They’ve had two weeks to address this huge hole in LOA 13 and this is the best they can come up with: They admit the hole is there... and they have no plan to address it.
Surrender our Scope to get through COVID, and then spend the next decade playing damage control? That’s not a valid plan.
They need to learn to multitask. Don’t sacrifice our long term CBA for short term gains. Protect us now and in the long term.
