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02-07-2022 | 07:41 PM

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nuball5

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Originally Posted by CFI2766

Well this was before the merger news but, spirit has much greater schedule flexibility and thus QOL. You could drop every trip on your schedule and rebuild back whatever trips you want from open time even on the weekends. Would not happen at JetBlue currently.

The shorter the trip the easier it is with how the stupid grid system works. I’m a day tripper, usually don’t have a lot of trouble getting rid of stuff.

02-09-2022 | 07:47 AM

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Bluedriver

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Originally Posted by nuball5

The shorter the trip the easier it is with how the stupid grid system works. I’m a day tripper, usually don’t have a lot of trouble getting rid of stuff.

Great, so only the remaining 85% of the pilot group have a problem...

02-09-2022 | 07:48 AM

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Bluedriver

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Originally Posted by CFI2766

So if every spirit pilot wants to drop December 25, how does that work?

02-10-2022 | 07:33 PM

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So if every spirit pilot wants to drop December 25, how does that work?

Chances are it won’t happen. They can set a minimum number of reserves per day and usually Christmas will be right at that minimum or drop below it shortly after pilots are able to drop.

That being said there’s other options. You could swap trips until you can work out something you like. Example: I was scheduled to work Dec 24-27. The 26-27 were above reserve coverage so those days could be dropped so I swapped into a trip that finished Christmas morning at 8:30. 2nd best option if you have to work Christmas.

02-13-2022 | 03:44 AM

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So if every spirit pilot wants to drop December 25, how does that work?

75% of the Days (pretty sure) have to be green at beginning of (IOT) Initial Open Time so the other 25% of the days can be “red”, usually holidays or beginning of month

02-13-2022 | 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chimpy

75% of the Days (pretty sure) have to be green at beginning of (IOT) Initial Open Time so the other 25% of the days can be “red”, usually holidays or beginning of month

Say for Christmas, they post required reserves as 28 (with every other day being say 20), and lets say there are 35 reserves for 12/25 when bids are finalized. Now, the first 7 to drop anything touching 12/25 can - after that - DENIED...

02-14-2022 | 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Chimpy

75% of the Days (pretty sure) have to be green at beginning of (IOT) Initial Open Time so the other 25% of the days can be “red”, usually holidays or beginning of month

Roger.

It's that "75% of days have to be green at bid opening" that JB pilots don't have...

02-14-2022 | 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluedriver

Roger.

It's that "75% of days have to be green at bid opening" that JB pilots don't have...

Unless you are trying to drop a 1 day trip with the way our grid is you can almost forget it.

02-15-2022 | 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pilotpayne

Unless you are trying to drop a 1 day trip with the way our grid is you can almost forget it.

The grid is the worst issue I personally have. We need a seriously better process in CBA 2.0. It was one of my 3 biggest issues on my ALPA survey. Vacation/PTO accrual and reassignment protections where my other two. Maybe if dependability went to the way side (not that they really enforce it) I wouldn't care about the grid so much.

03-21-2022 | 05:10 AM

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I’m in the same situation right now. Frontier surprisingly invited me for an interview back in March and got offered into the hiring pool. No class date yet but my background stuff is pending. Then Jetblue sent me a phase 1 invite yesterday. Basically I’m unclear as to where I will be long term but I don’t look down on ULCC carriers like some. I’m a FL guy, that’s where my family is and that’s where I wanna end up. Pay seems slightly higher at jetblue but I’m anticipating new rates with the pending merger and even so without. FL bases are junior with good movement and upgrade times. Jetblue seems like it will be a while for FL and then really slow progression. Jetblue has a better name and reputation.