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Bluedriver 09-20-2022 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by PSU Flyer (Post 3497746)
I agree that there are a dozen ways to make our pairings worse that out NC won’t see coming. If only there was a group we could join who has experience in airline contracts and has been negotiating them for 90 years…

That's a Bingo...

I just tried to swap into a longer trip. The trip was longer, and covered the same days (actually more than) the trip I was trying to swap out of. Trip was much better for me.

Denied, reserve grid.

This CAN'T be allowed to continue. Period.

Same as these atrocious pairings that have only gotten worse for the last year.

I'm fine with a narrower scope/quick deal/extension, but there are a few issues that need to be fixed IMMEDIATELY.

somertime32 09-20-2022 06:32 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3497732)
Yes, $450 sounds nice. Now in the real world, how you gonna vote on 6% plus no scheduling improvements???

Our pairings have gone to GARBAGE, and our pairings are our QOL.

I’d be a no on 6% and no scheduling changes, that was pretty much an instantaneous thought too.

WorkingUp 09-20-2022 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3497754)
That's a Bingo...

I just tried to swap into a longer trip. The trip was longer, and covered the same days (actually more than) the trip I was trying to swap out of. Trip was much better for me.

Denied, reserve grid.

This CAN'T be allowed to continue. Period.

Same as these atrocious pairings that have only gotten worse for the last year.

I'm fine with a narrower scope/quick deal/extension, but there are a few issues that need to be fixed IMMEDIATELY.

Well then you clearly didn't read the "More Info" tab next to 25.S ;-)

I was inverted 09-20-2022 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3497732)
Yes, $450 sounds nice. Now in the real world, how you gonna vote on 6% plus no scheduling improvements???

Our pairings have gone to GARBAGE, and our pairings are our QOL.

Let me guess…you’d “hold your nose and vote yes” again?

Bluedriver 09-20-2022 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by I was inverted (Post 3497866)
Let me guess…you’d “hold your nose and vote yes” again?

Um, NO! F NO.

Exactly my point.

Rcordeiro122592 09-20-2022 10:30 AM

Can we start with that 3% we got from the NEA and add a “0” to it for a starting point? 30% plus is needed

IAFDOF 09-20-2022 06:31 PM


Originally Posted by avi8orco (Post 3497630)
^^^^^^…..gets it. CK will write an email explaining how a 2% raise and Flica committee is a great deal during President Spongebrain $hitpants 8% inflation and this gullible group will vote it in 60/40 at least. Just hope there are bigger balls on the Spirit side of it all happens.

I’m gonna vote yes now, just to antagonize you


Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3497754)
That's a Bingo...

I just tried to swap into a longer trip. The trip was longer, and covered the same days (actually more than) the trip I was trying to swap out of. Trip was much better for me.

Denied, reserve grid=12pt.

Did you call them? If the same days are covered and you call scheduling, they’ll approve it in about 5 seconds. Works every time for me.

True Airspeed 09-20-2022 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by IAFDOF (Post 3498274)
Did you call them? If the same days are covered and you call scheduling, they’ll approve it in about 5 seconds. Works every time for me.

Call Crew Scheduling? Over some nonsense like that? I get what you’re saying, and, yes, that is a process you are to use when trades like that get denied, but you shouldn’t even have to call them. It’s insane that FLICA is even programmed that way to deny it to begin with—and more insane that it hasn’t been fixed after all this time—mind blown.

We need better, and I hope we get it in our next contract.

Ed Force One 09-21-2022 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by True Airspeed (Post 3498312)
Call Crew Scheduling? Over some nonsense like that? I get what you’re saying, and, yes, that is a process you are to use when trades like that get denied, but you shouldn’t even have to call them. It’s insane that FLICA is even programmed that way to deny it to begin with—and more insane that it hasn’t been fixed after all this time—mind blown.

We need better, and I hope we get it in our next contract.

Calling them and getting it taken car of manually is great and all...

until someone else snags the trip that could have been yours in the meantime.

We need better trip trading ability. Period.

IPAsallday 10-09-2022 10:45 AM

I hope everyone gave some serious numbers to our contract extension survey.


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