Originally Posted by AllOva736 (Post 3562671)

that actually sucks that you can’t do that, especially for commuters. Say you’re JFK based and live in CLT. It would be nice to have the option to pick up say a ATL trip ( if the deal goes through) or something from another base that’s a similar distance. Also for junior people who live in base but can’t hold a line in that base it allows you to drop your trips from your more junior base and pick up trips where you live. It’s pretty nice

Originally Posted by Tranquility (Post 3562692)

Except that we had some FLL Captains who made the same argument he did. They *****ed about bypassing seniority and such…. Never mind the fact their line is built based on seniority, initial open time is based on seniority…. Two bites at the seniority apple out of three…yeah, the system bypasses seniority…. :rolleyes:

I agree with you. I can’t believe JetBlue doesn’t have this, and that some wouldn’t want it. Especially if you commute.

Originally Posted by Bluediver (Post 3562727)

Pretty sure it had to do with fears that Prem/VDA opportunities would be reduced in the more senior bases where many people tend to live as well.

Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 3562731)

^^^ This

Be based in a junior base but live in a senior one
Drop to Zero
VDA/PREM in the senior base, or even just pick up straight time and avoid commuting
Profits

Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation (Post 3562759)

With Spirits current premium set up you can only list for “xlist” in your domicile. Takes care of that issue. And what’s wrong with avoiding commuting if you’re able?? Benefits outweigh the drawbacks.

Originally Posted by Flyby1206 (Post 3562767)

Ahh that’s good to hear you can only pick up premium in your domicile.

Avoiding commuting is good, but it ensures that Reserve grids will remain black/red in junior bases and super green in senior bases.

Originally Posted by fcoolaiddrinker (Post 3562806)

Seems the opentime side of the grid equation needs work as well. Not just the res grid side. To many handcuffs. No res pickups, no out of domicile, no split. These are all provisions with more upside than down if structured properly. The first two will take out a ton of undesirable flying while at the same time improving QOL for res and commuters. Time fences will make it a non issue for domicile pilots.

Originally Posted by Bluedriver (Post 3562826)

I like the cut of your jib...

Originally Posted by disenchantMINT (Post 3562347)

After 10+ pages of back and forth on “drop to zero” I’ve come to the conclusion Spirit is even farther behind us contractually than I realized since this is literally the crown jewel of their CBA. Wow.

Do you have anything—anything?!—else? Hours of service, pay/overrides, strict rescheduling rules, literally anything that rivals the jetblue contract? All these years I’ve heard about the amazing contract but it seems like it’s just drop to zero and four days off. Womp womp.