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Old 01-04-2025 | 03:06 PM
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This was 1000% personal but also well deserved. I remember some of those Irops during 2021-23. It was criminal what we were doing to standed families. Battaglia and Robin would be laughing and joking at some of these post Irop meetings. I gotta say, the airline has vastly improved since those 2 are gone.
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Old 01-04-2025 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Roy Biggins
This was 1000% personal but also well deserved. I remember some of those Irops during 2021-23. It was criminal what we were doing to standed families. Battaglia and Robin would be laughing and joking at some of these post Irop meetings. I gotta say, the airline has vastly improved since those 2 are gone.

I disagree. They did a bunch of systemic things around 6 months ago with how they scheduled the crews, but have since reversed most of that and just kept the padded turns. The regular buffoonery and incompitence due to high turnover in support along with zero accountability in some of those groups never changed. (5 minute waits for the jetbridge to get hooked up, waiting for marshallers to crawl out to meet us, the general lack of urgency when a flight has already been delayed for some reason, etc.)
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Old 01-05-2025 | 01:40 AM
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I disagree. They did a bunch of systemic things around 6 months ago with how they scheduled the crews, but have since reversed most of that and just kept the padded turns. The regular buffoonery and incompitence due to high turnover in support along with zero accountability in some of those groups never changed. (5 minute waits for the jetbridge to get hooked up, waiting for marshallers to crawl out to meet us, the general lack of urgency when a flight has already been delayed for some reason, etc.)
We have definitely benefitted from good weather days and minimal IROPs over the last 12 months, but you’re right the padding turns by decompressing the schedule has helped though.

The next logical thing to do would be to pad block time, but that is difficult to do when you’re losing money because it raises CASM.
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Old 01-05-2025 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by SmitteyB
We have definitely benefitted from good weather days and minimal IROPs over the last 12 months, but you’re right the padding turns by decompressing the schedule has helped though.

The next logical thing to do would be to pad block time, but that is difficult to do when you’re losing money because it raises CASM.

well they finally got away from everything works if it’s a blue sky day bs
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Old 01-05-2025 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer
I disagree. They did a bunch of systemic things around 6 months ago with how they scheduled the crews, but have since reversed most of that and just kept the padded turns. The regular buffoonery and incompitence due to high turnover in support along with zero accountability in some of those groups never changed. (5 minute waits for the jetbridge to get hooked up, waiting for marshallers to crawl out to meet us, the general lack of urgency when a flight has already been delayed for some reason, etc.)
I don't disagree with what you're saying here, but the operation has vastly improved overall. It used to be really, really bad. As someone else just said, they certainly have benefitted from a long stretch of good weather though.
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Old 01-05-2025 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Roy Biggins
I don't disagree with what you're saying here, but the operation has vastly improved overall. It used to be really, really bad. As someone else just said, they certainly have benefitted from a long stretch of good weather though.
Yeah they definitely ran a crap operation under Wobbin and obviously didn’t care. I do think we need to be responsible as airlines but also the government plays a role with ATC. The ops have been better but we still have stupid issues like jetways in Bos that apparently nobody can drive. So its better but a long way to go still.
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Old 01-05-2025 | 09:18 PM
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Yeah they definitely ran a crap operation under Wobbin and obviously didn’t care. I do think we need to be responsible as airlines but also the government plays a role with ATC. The ops have been better but we still have stupid issues like jetways in Bos that apparently nobody can drive. So its better but a long way to go still.

Is it just me or does anyone else think they should be doing jetbridge training on RON aircraft that have already bee deplaned instead of already late arrivals?
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Old 01-06-2025 | 06:26 AM
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Is it just me or does anyone else think they should be doing jetbridge training on RON aircraft that have already bee deplaned instead of already late arrivals?
I don't understand what our issue is with jetbridges. Every single station we go to except international, our people can't figure them out. I never see other airlines having the issues we have with them, and it's embarassing. You can't tell me only ours don't work, so it must be a training issue. I love sitting for 15 minutes watching our agent shrug her shoulders and start staring at her phone, then a dude in a hi-vis vest shows up and moves the thing in 2 seconds. I've only had a hard broken jetbridge 2 or 3 times in my airline career where we needed to be tugged elsewhere, every other time the jetbridge mechanic dude got it moving immedietely.
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Old 01-06-2025 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by AYLflyer
I don't understand what our issue is with jetbridges. Every single station we go to except international, our people can't figure them out. I never see other airlines having the issues we have with them, and it's embarassing. You can't tell me only ours don't work, so it must be a training issue. I love sitting for 15 minutes watching our agent shrug her shoulders and start staring at her phone, then a dude in a hi-vis vest shows up and moves the thing in 2 seconds. I've only had a hard broken jetbridge 2 or 3 times in my airline career where we needed to be tugged elsewhere, every other time the jetbridge mechanic dude got it moving immedietely.

From what I understand the new jet bridges in Bos are super sensitive and can get out of “alignment” I don’t know the exact term or go past the artfical limits and once it does it stops. They need to call out the “business partner. To hit the reset or override and off they go. Apparently our guys aren’t allowed to do that. Just what I have been told so it could be and probably is total BS.

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Old 01-06-2025 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotpayne
From what I understand the new jet bridges in Bos are super sensitive and can get out of “alignment” I don’t know the exact term or go past the artfical limits and once it does it stops. They need to call out the “business partner. To hit the reset or override and off they go. Apparently our guys aren’t allowed to do that. Just what I have been told so it could be and probably is total BS.
I’ve heard that too, but if you know how to use the jet bridge properly, I’m guessing it won’t get out of “alignment.”
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