Merger? Anyone Anyone
02-19-2026 | 02:50 PM
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02-19-2026 | 02:57 PM
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Was this a management pilot? Stating the obvious here, but this was no more than his/her opinion. Nobody outside of a few people would know this information for certain and they aren’t walking around the school house talking to pilots about it. I’m a naysayer on this merger rumor, but it sure looks like there will be a codeshare at a minimum. Time will tell.
regular line pilot. His backing was that he follows stocks, news, history, etc etc
does a codeshare mean it’s headed in the merger direction ?
02-19-2026 | 03:01 PM
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02-19-2026 | 03:09 PM
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I think at that point I’d say that’s their intention. Markets and circumstances change often and quickly in this business so it would depend on what things look like at that time. What may be true today won’t necessarily be true in 18 months. Getting a merger of this size and consequence approved is a monumental task that requires a lot of political pull and stars to be aligned.
02-19-2026 | 03:10 PM
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1.F.1.b requires more active pilots on the commercial agreement effective date vs the number employed 365 days prior to that date. So company will need to hire a few hundred before they can have an agreement like that go into effect. Maybe announce some codeshare this fall with an effective date mid 2027 and start hiring. Also would need a LOA with ALPA or more likely a completion to Section 6 negotiations before this could go into effect.
02-19-2026 | 03:13 PM
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No need for any LOA or completion of Section 6. They can ink this codeshare without any permission or negotiation if the satisfy Section 1….. and all that’s required is a single pilot more than the number of active pilots 1 yr prior to the effective date. The whole reason for the initial NEA LOA was to get relief from those section 1 requirements on block hrs and pilot numbers.
The Company may enter into or maintain a Commercial Agreement with a Domestic Air Carrier that is a new partner and is similar in size (e.g., Alaska Airlines) or smaller (measured by annual ASMs) than the Company in the relevant Comparison Period, provided:
02-19-2026 | 03:21 PM
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Unfortunately it doesn’t apply. Those protections specifically prevent farming out our flying to a carrier of comparable size or smaller. United is not in that category, the only restrictions for a codeshare with United would be found in 1.F.1. Nothing in 1.F prohibits a codeshare with a larger airline, it only places additional restrictions on any attempt to farm flying out to similar sized or smaller carrier with 1.F.2
02-19-2026 | 03:23 PM
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Strongly disagree with that, and 1.F.2 absolutely applies to any Commercial Agreement. It is why we ended the Hawaiian codeshare after they merged with AS. The combined company was larger than us. When we entered the NEA with AA there was a LOA providing relief for that 1.F.2 section.
02-19-2026 | 03:27 PM
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Strongly disagree with that, and 1.F.2 absolutely applies to any Commercial Agreement. It is why we ended the Hawaiian codeshare after they merged with AS. The combined company was larger than us. When we entered the NEA with AA there was a LOA providing relief for that 1.F.2 section.
I hope you are correct, but you need to read contractual language for ambiguity in the eyes of the party that will attempt to twist it’s intent and present it to an arbiter to exploit those cracks to their advantage!
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02-19-2026 | 03:48 PM
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But I should change it to :
July 3rd. Announce on a Friday, day before the 4th (everything Stars and Stripes...oh no, American is buying us). Forgotten by Monday.
or
June 13th. Day before the President's birthday. Big celebration for the "biggest airline merger" ever known to man. Biggest gift to the bigly President. Propose an IAD name change...merger approved.
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