JetBlue headed for bankruptcy
05-14-2026 | 08:33 AM
#251
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From: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Ahhhh reduce EWR hmmmmmmmm
Anyway I assume we no longer (if ever) need a base there. They are just shifting things to take advantage of FLL if they didn’t yall would be here saying omg why are we filling in the gap. Will it work no clue, should we have not cancelled the aircraft orders probably not. However it’s a logical move to make. But between here and airliners.net it’s obviously doom.
With that all said I think we grab as much FLL as we can and eventually get bought by another airline. Back to real estate plays.
05-14-2026 | 08:47 AM
#252
SDQ Base Chief
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From: 320 CA
It is tough for us operationally to run point-to-point routes that dont have a crew base on one end. Particularly north-south Florida flying. At one point I believe TPA or BDL were in the running for a small crew base, but those days are gone.
05-14-2026 | 08:54 AM
#253
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It’s honestly tough to know when management is telling the truth anymore. Pilots fly full flights and then management claims they don't make money. Full flights do not always equal profit but if they are full why not charge more?
Over the past 5 years jetblue has changed or exited 30% of cities compared to SWA,DAL, UAL and AA being less than 10%.
For reference Jetblue has a probability of exiting a city between 25-40% while Delta and United are less than 10%
This, boys and girls, is the epitome of bad management and route planning.
05-14-2026 | 09:06 AM
#254
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It’s honestly tough to know when management is telling the truth anymore. Pilots fly full flights and then management claims they don't make money. Full flights do not always equal profit but if they are full why not charge more?
Over the past 5 years jetblue has changed or exited 30% of cities compared to SWA,DAL, UAL and AA being less than 10%.
For reference Jetblue has a probability of exiting a city between 25-40% while Delta and United are less than 10%
This, boys and girls, is the epitome of bad management and route planning.
Over the past 5 years jetblue has changed or exited 30% of cities compared to SWA,DAL, UAL and AA being less than 10%.
For reference Jetblue has a probability of exiting a city between 25-40% while Delta and United are less than 10%
This, boys and girls, is the epitome of bad management and route planning.
05-14-2026 | 09:08 AM
#255
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Aren’t we also now allowing passengers to book mixed metal itineraries on JB/UA. If so, it begs the question of is the company reducing flying that could reasonably be performed by its own pilots on someone else’s metal?
I see now why they’re so careful on stating it’s just a partnership, no JV, no rev sharing, etc. to give the illusion of not violating scope. But this right here says otherwise. We had an operation there, trimmed it and now the same flight is bookable through our channels without our pilots flying it.
I see now why they’re so careful on stating it’s just a partnership, no JV, no rev sharing, etc. to give the illusion of not violating scope. But this right here says otherwise. We had an operation there, trimmed it and now the same flight is bookable through our channels without our pilots flying it.
05-14-2026 | 09:10 AM
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Aren’t we also now allowing passengers to book mixed metal itineraries on JB/UA. If so, it begs the question of is the company reducing flying that could reasonably be performed by its own pilots on someone else’s metal?
I see now why they’re so careful on stating it’s just a partnership, no JV, no rev sharing, etc. to give the illusion of not violating scope. But this right here says otherwise. We had an operation there, trimmed it and now the same flight is bookable through our channels without our pilots flying it.
I see now why they’re so careful on stating it’s just a partnership, no JV, no rev sharing, etc. to give the illusion of not violating scope. But this right here says otherwise. We had an operation there, trimmed it and now the same flight is bookable through our channels without our pilots flying it.
05-14-2026 | 09:10 AM
#257
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Aren’t we also now allowing passengers to book mixed metal itineraries on JB/UA. If so, it begs the question of is the company reducing flying that could reasonably be performed by its own pilots on someone else’s metal?
I see now why they’re so careful on stating it’s just a partnership, no JV, no rev sharing, etc. to give the illusion of not violating scope. But this right here says otherwise. We had an operation there, trimmed it and now the same flight is bookable through our channels without our pilots flying it.
I see now why they’re so careful on stating it’s just a partnership, no JV, no rev sharing, etc. to give the illusion of not violating scope. But this right here says otherwise. We had an operation there, trimmed it and now the same flight is bookable through our channels without our pilots flying it.
05-14-2026 | 09:16 AM
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Aren’t we also now allowing passengers to book mixed metal itineraries on JB/UA. If so, it begs the question of is the company reducing flying that could reasonably be performed by its own pilots on someone else’s metal?
I see now why they’re so careful on stating it’s just a partnership, no JV, no rev sharing, etc. to give the illusion of not violating scope. But this right here says otherwise. We had an operation there, trimmed it and now the same flight is bookable through our channels without our pilots flying it.
I see now why they’re so careful on stating it’s just a partnership, no JV, no rev sharing, etc. to give the illusion of not violating scope. But this right here says otherwise. We had an operation there, trimmed it and now the same flight is bookable through our channels without our pilots flying it.
05-14-2026 | 11:36 AM
#260
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On the other hand the EWR base was created because of the NEA and became a bit of a zombie afterwards. Ripe for a reduction?
The EWR flying that remains competes with UAL flying and that would count as a factor against an acquisition. And vice versa.
NOTE: I don't know anything.
The EWR flying that remains competes with UAL flying and that would count as a factor against an acquisition. And vice versa.
NOTE: I don't know anything.
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