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Old 05-19-2021, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
Heard that was revised down to 200 fwiw. But, who knows.
Makes sense, every aircraft is FULL, so I would expect them to push the brakes on hiring.
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Old 05-19-2021, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
Heard that was revised down to 200 fwiw. But, who knows.

Haha that didn’t take long did it.

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Old 05-19-2021, 08:03 AM
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Haha that didn’t take long did it.

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just like our deliveries every year..
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Old 05-19-2021, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Descendto450 View Post
just like our deliveries every year..
Yup, every year. Hiring 500! End of the year .. hired 250. Taking 15 planes! End of the year.. 7 planes delivered.
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Old 05-19-2021, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted Striker View Post
Yup, every year. Hiring 500! End of the year .. hired 250. Taking 15 planes! End of the year.. 7 planes delivered.
I so wish this wasn't 1,000% true...
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Old 05-19-2021, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
Heard that was revised down to 200 fwiw. But, who knows.
CL is telling guys the new guys at JBU this week that it's 600ish over the next 8-12 months. Not possible IMHO, but who knows.
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Old 05-19-2021, 03:39 PM
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CL is telling guys the new guys at JBU this week that it's 600ish over the next 8-12 months. Not possible IMHO, but who knows.
I don’t doubt 600 by end of 22. 200 this year and 400 next. 8-12 months? Guess we will see. That’s gonna be very damn difficult though seeing that pre-covid they were gonna try to do 600 a year. Starting from where we are at now and ramping to do that in 8 months? I’d love to be wrong but I don’t see it.

We had ~200ish in the pool. Not sure how many of those will actually come here. 100? 150? 175? No idea. I know some found other jobs. Then you have the fact that the new interviewers will have to get trained, a new app window has to be opened, video interviews have to be done, and f2f interviews will begin. So…I put interviews at the end of June as the earliest possibility, more likely July or august. And our process takes forever, so let’s say they interview in July or August, the earliest I could see them at JBU is October or November. So, I just think logistically we couldn’t really get 300+ this year even if we tried. But once the systems are in place and moving again, and our pool gets refilled as this one gets depleted, we can probably start hiring a decent amount more next year, assuming the need exists, the order book and block hours support it, etc. Finance ultimately is the one who greenlights staffing numbers from what I understand. With the intern at the helm of that department, who knows what they will do.
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Old 05-20-2021, 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy View Post
I don’t doubt 600 by end of 22. 200 this year and 400 next. 8-12 months? Guess we will see. That’s gonna be very damn difficult though seeing that pre-covid they were gonna try to do 600 a year. Starting from where we are at now and ramping to do that in 8 months? I’d love to be wrong but I don’t see it.
Totally agree with you. But I'm just passing along what Chris is telling the new guys in reference to the previous post about hiring being scaled back to 200. If it has been scaled back, I would think Chris would know about it and wouldn't be telling new hires the 600 over 8-12 month number.
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Old 05-20-2021, 04:13 AM
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Totally agree with you. But I'm just passing along what Chris is telling the new guys in reference to the previous post about hiring being scaled back to 200. If it has been scaled back, I would think Chris would know about it and wouldn't be telling new hires the 600 over 8-12 month number.
Chris is a good dude. I trust what he has to say….
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Old 05-20-2021, 04:49 AM
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Totally agree with you. But I'm just passing along what Chris is telling the new guys in reference to the previous post about hiring being scaled back to 200. If it has been scaled back, I would think Chris would know about it and wouldn't be telling new hires the 600 over 8-12 month number.
Just to play devils advocate.

Just yesterday there was 35 pilots who thought they were going to fly the bus over the puddle. Now they are not.

When I was in training it was 600-650 in the next 18-24 months (I was in training April). So take it for what it’s worth. I hope for my seniority sake it’s 1000 in the next 8 months. But realistically and historically, I do not think we have ever hired what we said we were going to hire.

Also, it begs to ask the question, what are we hiring for? We are short 190 FO’s. We still
have something like 10 320’s parked. But where else are We lacking? The order book doesn’t seem like it needs 600 pilots. Just my observation. The more that get hired the better. However, I’m not holding my breath for 600.
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