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Old 02-21-2016 | 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
Anyone interested in knowing what it's really like at JB, completely disregard this post.
Amen.

+8 yr employee.
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Old 02-21-2016 | 03:22 AM
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I'll agree with part of what he said. I did enjoy my time at the lodge and training pay is ridiculous. First year pay could be better but it is a lot better once you can hold a line and make a few extra bucks.

Life got a lot better for me when I could hold a line. The ability to change my schedule here is incredible compared to the regional that I came from. I appreciate the transparency.

The dueling emails sometimes seem a little childish.
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Old 02-21-2016 | 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by LargeMarge
So a few quick observations for those considering JB, I've been here about 6 months. Previous I was an 11yr RJ CA.

1. JB is not an on time airline, nor do they claim to be. Almost all of your flights will be late. Some by a little, some by a lot.

2. Scheduling will push you harder than your regional, but will relent if you put up a fight.

3. Everyone really is happy that you at JB and will go out of their way to make that point.

4. Relations between the company and the pilot group are a bit frayed at the moment and IMO the tone of our MEC is very belligerent.

5. Given the trend of the industry, pay is low, especially training pay.

6. I'm happy here and have no apps in elsewhere.

7. I enjoyed my time at the lodge.
This is very bold for someone too say that has been here for six month..

You've said quite a few negative things about a company you are "happy at"
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Old 02-21-2016 | 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by LargeMarge
Yes I'm on the 190, and I've had several flights run 6+ hours late
Maybe because of winter? Or quite possibly a problem outside of the scope of control of the company.

If you've personally have had six hour delays on more than one occasion, I would imagine an email saying this is what has been happening? But since you're the only one it makes me think you've been apart of system wide delays. Most likely due to something out of the companies control...
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Old 02-21-2016 | 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by LargeMarge
So a few quick observations for those considering JB, I've been here about 6 months. Previous I was an 11yr RJ CA.

1. JB is not an on time airline, nor do they claim to be. Almost all of your flights will be late. Some by a little, some by a lot.
75.97% on time for 2015:
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2. Scheduling will push you harder than your regional, but will relent if you put up a fight.
This one made me chuckle. I've never flown more than 350hrs/year on reserve. I've broken guarantee once in 5yrs. My ex-regional routinely flew us over guarantee and would extend you 6days straight before you got to go home to do laundry.

3. Everyone really is happy that you at JB and will go out of their way to make that point.
You clearly haven't flown with any Airbus captains!

4. Relations between the company and the pilot group are a bit frayed at the moment and IMO the tone of our MEC is very belligerent.
Over exaggeration. You should have seen the pre-Union relations for a definition of frayed.

5. Given the trend of the industry, pay is low, especially training pay.

6. I'm happy here and have no apps in elsewhere.

7. I enjoyed my time at the lodge.
Training pay does suck, and I hope that changes in the CBA. Glad you made a point to tell us you enjoy it here at JetBlue.
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Old 02-21-2016 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyby1206
75.97% on time for 2015:
RITA | BTS | Title from h2



This one made me chuckle. I've never flown more than 350hrs/year on reserve. I've broken guarantee once in 5yrs. My ex-regional routinely flew us over guarantee and would extend you 6days straight before you got to go home to do laundry.
115hrs in 2015. on RSV. One time in 8 yrs have I ever remotely come close to having to talk to anyone other that a supervisor when "yep I'm not going to do that".
Know the rules and don't be a pu$$y you will have no issues...



You clearly haven't flown with any Airbus captains!
I'll add some of our RJ captains!


Over exaggeration. You should have seen the pre-Union relations for a definition of frayed.



Training pay does suck, and I hope that changes in the CBA. Glad you made a point to tell us you enjoy it here at JetBlue.
Pretty much have to agree with all of the above.
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Old 02-21-2016 | 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Bpflyerone
Apparantly I ****ed someone off, who I guess later deleted their post because I can't see it. Unlike some people, I don't carry my company issued iPad with me wherever I go on my days off, and happened to not be around when I got awarded the hybrid and trading opens tomorrow. Thanks for the guys who came out in my defense. Yes, I guess I could carry the books with me wherever I go, but I choose not to. Thanks again to the guys who threw out some simple easy answers to my not difficult question.


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That's understandable, but please do yourself a favor and be very familiar with the FSM, to the point you won't need it with you.
Of course you can't have it by memory and if you have doubts with the many gray areas, talk about it with your rep or the captains, they have been there and can tell you what the interpretation could be.

The all point is to make sure CS does not walk all over you, and if we all do that, we would be a safer and stronger and pilot group.
Believe it or not, the guy that was telling you to dig in the FSM was making you a bigger favor then whoever just answered you. He probably did not realize you were far from your iPad.
You don't want try dealing with CS with infos you got from a public forum. You want to be able to tell them what official publication you referring, and what section, what paragraph.
Just a sincere advice. Congratulation on you first hybrid.
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Old 02-21-2016 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by LargeMarge
Yes I'm on the 190, and I've had several flights run 6+ hours late
The CLT folks appreciate the completion factor.

You will learn in the coming years, when your pay get's a little higher ( hopefully we're working on that), that IROP's create opportunity and $.
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Old 02-21-2016 | 06:02 AM
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Jetblue is a great place to work. The whole Newhire situation blows between pay and the lodge. It kind of ruins what should be a great time in a pilots life of getting to a major.

As for scheduling. They have a job to do and they never have pushed me. They are polite and professional which is definitely the opposite of what my regional FO's have told me about their former life. I flew 260 hrs last year as a RSV E90 Captain.

The union is professional, responsive and has cultivated a relationship with the company from scratch. The will deliver an excellent CBA very soon by working with the company, not beating them over the head. (The company gets some credit here too)

I've been at Jetblue going on 7 hrs and will stay till the end.
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Old 02-21-2016 | 08:28 AM
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As a habitual RSV guy, I've never had any issues with scheduling. As previous posters stated, you have to know your FSM. In the last year alone I've gotten out of 5 trips assigned because they were assigned out of order. I've been given Short Call when I should have had Long Call; all these things have been rectified with a call to scheduling. And I see plenty of guys get trips when they shouldn't, and I email them to let them know. Some even respond that they don't care, it worked for their schedule. All the more reason to look out for yourself and make sure assignments are legit.
I flew about 120 hours last year. IROPS are great, I flew 4.8 in Jan and credited 112, but that is not the norm!

Tex

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