BlueBlood

If I understood his question correctly; "what are the chances to be used when already have credit from hybrid"

Actually there is reference to the FSM. The answer is;

You will be bypassed for the assignment of known open time. That means what they assign starting at 7am the day before. That is completed by 12pm.

You will be used for unknown open time, either today or tomorrow, in a first in, first out order, as long as you are legal. Nothing to do with credit or seniority.

So, when a pairing is there before 7am the day before, they use credit, when a paring pops up after that, they go by start time of RAP.

Seniority is only the last tiebreaker in both cases.

You can reference all that in the flow charts at the end of the FSM.

Basically, CaptCool was right, it is a crap shot, and you have no way to know what will happen today, or tomorrow for most part.

I know you will be nominating me for TOTD but I have to insist, please read your FSM, for yourself and all of us. You have to be able to stand your ground if they call you violating the few rules we have. But if you don't know them, you can't defend yourself.

When I was fresh out of OE:

I got two hours call out for LGA.
Got assigned pairings two hours from initial call attempt.
Shorten my SCL to give me a pairing next day, without my consent.
Got an assignment before 8am the following day after a red eye.
Got a call at 4pm to convert LCR to SCL the following day.

I did not know, and I took all that.
But no more. I read the FSM.

Sorry for the long post...

texpilot

BlueBlood, I didn't realize they would be bypassed for the assignment of Known Opentime. I also don't see that in the flow chart in section J. Mind helping me out?
Thanks.

Edit: I think what you meant to say was not that they would be bypassed for Known Opentime, but would PROBABLY not be assigned Known Opentime based upon their credit in relation to others in their bucket.
If they are the lowest credit in their bucket (such as the only person in their bucket, or another Hybrid holder with more credit), they could still be assigned Known Opentime and not bypassed and only subject to Unknown Opentime.
Is that what you meant?
Hopefully we're all learning a new CBA in the not so distant future!

Tex

JustAnotherPLT

System bid in the beginning of March correct? Also, I have April transition, if I'm awarded something different on this system bid, will they cancel my training or is it too late? Not sure when the cutoff would be.

Ted Striker

Any word on some movement on this next bid?

BlueBlood

Yes that's what I mean, sorry I was not clear.
I am glad to see you are digging into the FSM

Flyby1206

1st full week of March we should see the bid open. FSM B.3.5, you can still bid and be awarded a new position until you enter training/transition. If you're just transferring a base then it is harder to tell what will happen. If you were JFK and initially awarded BOS and now bidding back to JFK then you might get stuck in BOS for a month or two.

The whispers haven't been optimistic in terms of upgrades on this bid...

Bpflyerone

I still wish the response to my similar question hadn't been deleted before I got the chance to read it.


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blueFroggy

He wasn't mean. He did spend a fairly lengthy read explaining to you why you should read the FSM yourself as well.
I hope you don't

nuball5

Not sure if anyone here can answer this. I have a day pass for Saturday for the WAI Conference. This is the last day of the conference where there's no fast-passes for any airlines. Does anyone know if that still means I'll be able to walk up to the JetBlue booth and meet with a recruiter that day? Or should I make plans to attend on one of the fast-pass days.

clear4approach

Amen brotha! I don't advocate for finding something in the FSM to be a tool, but for the same reason you do. It helps us to not get played for fools when scheduling gives us an assignment. Some may see it as toolish but I never give them even a minute of leeway. They've called and given me showtimes 1:45 from now, or 2 hour callouts for LGA, etc. I tell them "well, my clock is showing xx time so let's call my show time 2 hours from now." I don't purposefully drag my feet in getting to the airport, but I never promise them less than a 2 hour show either. You give them 5 minutes and soon enough they'll be calling you for a 60 minute show, out of FSM order, cause you're "that guy". Then the minute your flight gets a delay because you accepted a less than 2 hour callout, you'll be thrown under the bus.
Please know what relatively little rules we do have. When we eventually have a contract we must hold the company to the rules of the contract, nothing less, and the only way we can do that, is to know it.
Back into the TOTD thread again for me....