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Old 06-08-2022, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Zerosilver84 View Post
I feel like if you sent that in last year and nothing then somehow the email got lost. Maybe reach out?
Hello.
Do you have any contact to reach out JetBlue Team?
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Old 06-13-2022, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Skydiving View Post
Congratulations.
I still waiting and lost hope
Send my flight addendum last year in July and nothing.
Don't bother, you can apply to Envoy and make more till you flow to AA...
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Old 06-13-2022, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueJuicer17 View Post
Don't bother, you can apply to Envoy and make more till you flow to AA...
and then make less then JB. nice advice. 👎🏽
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Old 06-13-2022, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Descendto450 View Post
and then make less then JB. nice advice. 👎🏽
Which AA widebody pays less than JB?
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Old 06-13-2022, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Descendto450 View Post
and then make less then JB. nice advice. 👎🏽
Show me a 10 year AA pilot who makes less than a 10 year B6 pilot. Seniority movement matters. Also.... fleets. Also crew meals. Also... their entire contract. Please include cost of living in the average AA domicile vs B6 in your calculation.
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Old 06-13-2022, 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer View Post
Show me a 10 year AA pilot who makes less than a 10 year B6 pilot. Seniority movement matters. Also.... fleets. Also crew meals. Also... their entire contract. Please include cost of living in the average AA domicile vs B6 in your calculation.

Going off the APC profiles, it looks like the payrate is almost exactly the same. I don’t know their contract except that they tend to get reassigned a lot, but I’m sure the opportunity to make money is as good at AA as it is at B6. Their fleet is overwhelmingly Airbus series/ 737. I doubt a 10 year AA captain can hold widebody, but maybe they can. They beat everyone on seniority movement obviously.
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Old 06-13-2022, 11:21 AM
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I wonder how many AA pilots quit to start over at JB?
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Old 06-13-2022, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by nuball5 View Post
Going off the APC profiles, it looks like the payrate is almost exactly the same. I don’t know their contract except that they tend to get reassigned a lot, but I’m sure the opportunity to make money is as good at AA as it is at B6. Their fleet is overwhelmingly Airbus series/ 737. I doubt a 10 year AA captain can hold widebody, but maybe they can. They beat everyone on seniority movement obviously.
Work rules are the key, pay protections, aggressive open time / VDA, premium time. That is why I have less seniority and beat every AA pilot I know when it comes to the end of the year take home. While we don't have the movement that they do, we have better work rules for earnings/pay protections. Pencil out all the hourly rates you want, work rules matter most and aren't represented in any of the APC profiles.
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Old 06-14-2022, 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Descendto450 View Post
Work rules are the key, pay protections, aggressive open time / VDA, premium time. That is why I have less seniority and beat every AA pilot I know when it comes to the end of the year take home. While we don't have the movement that they do, we have better work rules for earnings/pay protections. Pencil out all the hourly rates you want, work rules matter most and aren't represented in any of the APC profiles.

The proper pay rates aren’t even represented on APC.
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Old 06-14-2022, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Descendto450 View Post
Work rules are the key, pay protections, aggressive open time / VDA, premium time. That is why I have less seniority and beat every AA pilot I know when it comes to the end of the year take home. While we don't have the movement that they do, we have better work rules for earnings/pay protections. Pencil out all the hourly rates you want, work rules matter most and aren't represented in any of the APC profiles.

​​​​​​AA's next contract can equal all those work rules. Can you equal their movement and wide-bodies? And you hustle and work the system, a lot. Many/most fly their line and go home and enjoy their weekends off.
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