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Old 06-14-2022, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
​​​​​​AA's next contract can equal all those work rules. Can you equal their movement and wide-bodies? And you hustle and work the system, a lot. Many/most fly their line and go home and enjoy their weekends off.
AA’s next contract won’t matter until our next contract. You can’t compare a 2022 contract to a 2018 contract.
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Old 06-14-2022, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Cockpit997 View Post
AA’s next contract won’t matter until our next contract. You can’t compare a 2022 contract to a 2018 contract.
I hate to disappoint you, but like everything that comes out of B6ALPA, our next contract will be sub par.

And our pilot group will ratify it.
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Old 06-14-2022, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer View Post
I hate to disappoint you, but like everything that comes out of B6ALPA, our next contract will be sub par.

And our pilot group will ratify it.
Remember, our current NC thought LOA 13 was good for us and were favor of it. That should scare the heck out of everyone here. These guys don’t know a bad deal when it slaps them straight in the face. Unfortunately I have no confidence in getting what we deserve in CBA 2.
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Old 06-14-2022, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Cockpit997 View Post
AA’s next contract won’t matter until our next contract. You can’t compare a 2022 contract to a 2018 contract.
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That's how the cycle always works. What I said is still completely true.
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Old 06-14-2022, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
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That's how the cycle always works. What I said is still completely true.
Of course it is.
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Old 06-14-2022, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer View Post
I hate to disappoint you, but like everything that comes out of B6ALPA, our next contract will be sub par.

And our pilot group will ratify it.
one of the best things about a merger. Getting rid of ck
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Old 06-14-2022, 10:52 AM
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one of the best things about a merger. Getting rid of ck
you can say that again…
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Old 06-14-2022, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
​​​​​​AA's next contract can equal all those work rules. Can you equal their movement and wide-bodies? And you hustle and work the system, a lot. Many/most fly their line and go home and enjoy their weekends off.
I hope that AA gets their work rules improved and you are correct about movement they have it far better then we currently do. However until that new contract happens we have better work rules for earnings maybe not for QOL issues. Hopefully pattern bargaining will help us out as we strive for this new contract..
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Old 06-14-2022, 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Descendto450 View Post
I hope that AA gets their work rules improved and you are correct about movement they have it far better then we currently do. However until that new contract happens we have better work rules for earnings maybe not for QOL issues. Hopefully pattern bargaining will help us out as we strive for this new contract..
Agree.... At least for narrow-body, and probably the whole enchilada, we have much better work rules. Not that they don't have something we could use, but overall.

But that can change in one contract cycle, and likely will.
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Old 06-14-2022, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MainlineFlyer View Post
I hate to disappoint you, but like everything that comes out of B6ALPA, our next contract will be sub par.

And our pilot group will ratify it.
Eagle/Envoy 170 pay +5% on the 190
Eagle/Envoy 170 pay +15% on the 220
Eagle/Envoy 170 pay +18% on the 320/321
Int’l per diem goes up $.10 an hour except flights touching our new pilot base in SDQ
Medical and dental rates don’t increase
New hires get $40,000 signing bonus to be paid back (in full) if they leave before 3rd anniversary
Entire pilot group gets 1% “profit sharing” bonus if all fuel saving initiatives are met each year
(Initiatives are TBD and at complete discretion of management).
3% signing bonus within 180 days of DOS

MEC and NC: “It’s a Win Win Win. We got everything you told us you wanted in those contract surveys”
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