There are a lot of people on file at the majors with better than "almost 5 years of FO time." Relax man. If you're sad because you haven't ended up at a major after 4 years then you don't belong in this industry. It took me almost 9. Avg seems to be 11-12 years.

 

Pretty sure this was the brainchild of a VP who was also a quota hire at a legacy. The G7 pilots will have over twice the number of hours than this VP did when hired by that legacy. I'd guess that's how it was rationalized.

Two benefits to the company:

1. Negotiating power. The pilots don't want it. What will we give the company for them to terminate the program?

2. Cost savings. JB floats a loan to new student...about $100k. Student has money taken our of paycheck when they start...so instead of making $50k/yr they make $40k/yr. If they leave before loan is paid they owe the balance in full. A small interest rate would apply.

Gateway 7. Brought to you by an under-qualified quota-hire. Because experience doesn't really matter.

JB had over 3000 applications during the last application window. Yet they find it necessary to grab someone with absolutely no experience whatsoever. Mind boggling.

 

Agree on all acounts! The worst part is that all these different news outlets are publishing JetBlue Hiring Pilots With No Experience. I beleive this is hurting our brand!

 

This. With all the retirements at the majors over the next 10 years, there will be a shortage of qualified pilots even to get to the majors. I would hazard a guess and say JetBlue realizes this and is taking steps to mitigate it. Will it work? Who knows? It personally seems to me like this is a step to entice people to look into the career who might not have otherwise looked into it. Ask yourselves, when you had 0 time, wouldn't it be nice to know that you have a career progression path instead of paying out hundreds of thousands on the chance that you won't get stuck at a regional for 9 years as a first officer making $45K? It seems like everyone is upset because of the "I had to go through it, so should everyone else" mentality. These G7ers still have to get all the ratings and get some experience at the regionals before coming on full time.

For all the guys posting their qualifications and times: do you really think there is someone who is going over EVERY application, looks at yours specifically, and denies it? Come on, man, don't be so narcissistic. It's not a slap in the face that you have all this experience and they rejected you - it's more likely a function of LUCK. Nobody really knows how one application gets picked over another, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a program that takes every 25th, 50th, 100th, etc. and then has a human check credentials, then that person gets a call for an interview.

And before I get flamed, no, I am not management, I was not involved in the development of the program. I'm just an independent thinker who can see through the groupthink mentality to arrive at my own conclusions.

 

Exactly. And all the details are not out yet...everyone is just speculating without having all of it..like the news. I'm not at JB and also have an app in. The way I see it, it's a way to become a pro pilot that MAY work and have people take an interest in this career. Will it be good for the industry ? I don't know but I'll await more details to confirm/clear away suspicions about the potential negative effects. Anyone have more information to post? That article title sure doesn't help...what a crock.




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Anyone heard the drop for today's new class?

 

33Total New Hires
11 JFK 320
The rest 190 JFK/BOS

 

Wow, 22 190 slots is the most I've seen in a long time.

 

Where's my system bid! ? Lol

 

Tomorrow morning at the latest!