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Old 05-11-2021, 05:35 AM
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Change of topic but any rumors about Jetblue opening a new crew base somplace? Chicago, Denver, Seattle.

Also and I guess I heard that now there is talk of the JB / American merger.

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Old 05-11-2021, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by korg128
Change of topic but any rumors about Jetblue opening a new crew base somplace? Chicago, Denver, Seattle.

Also and I guess I heard that now there is talk of the JB / American merger.

Thanks.
No talk of base opening and no credible talk of mergers other then speculation from us really smart pilots😎
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Old 05-11-2021, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by korg128
Change of topic but any rumors about Jetblue opening a new crew base somplace? Chicago, Denver, Seattle.

Also and I guess I heard that now there is talk of the JB / American merger.

Thanks.
No new bases and no merger.
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Old 05-11-2021, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by korg128
Change of topic but any rumors about Jetblue opening a new crew base somplace? Chicago, Denver, Seattle.

Also and I guess I heard that now there is talk of the JB / American merger.

Thanks.

this post is what dreams are made of.

-if you come here, expect our current bases to stag the same. if we did open new bases, they would not be the bases you suggested.

-a merger, while exciting to say in public, really really scares me. Would be WWIII, and everyone would lose. I donít think this is happening.

-also on the merger front, Iíve heard United, AA, etc the entire time Iíve been here. I donít think itís happening.
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Old 05-11-2021, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Ted Striker
No new bases and no merger.
Iíve heard rumors of SFO, LAS, RDU and TPA being considered for bases, however, those rumors have been around for a long time and likely donít hold much merit. We so infrequently open bases, I wouldnít hold my breath.
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Old 05-11-2021, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by seekingblue
this post is what dreams are made of.

-if you come here, expect our current bases to stag the same. if we did open new bases, they would not be the bases you suggested.

-a merger, while exciting to say in public, really really scares me. Would be WWIII, and everyone would lose. I donít think this is happening.

-also on the merger front, Iíve heard United, AA, etc the entire time Iíve been here. I donít think itís happening.
YeahÖ.can we open EWR first before we think about opening that DEN base that Jetblue very much needs to support a handful of flights per day at best.
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Old 05-11-2021, 06:28 AM
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YeahÖ.can we open EWR first before we think about opening that DEN base that Jetblue very much needs to support a handful of flights per day at best.
correct. I forgot about EWR. I think they would want to try and make it a co-base (I donít think any pilots want that). But Iím sure the company will tryÖ.
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Old 05-11-2021, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by korg128
Change of topic but any rumors about Jetblue opening a new crew base somplace? Chicago, Denver, Seattle.

Also and I guess I heard that now there is talk of the JB / American merger.

Thanks.
Shouldn't we build out LAX and MCO before adding more bases?

AA has no money to buy anyone, and I doubt our company would like to be saddled with a bunch more debt.

Post AA BK? Maybe.
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Originally Posted by RiddleEagle18
ďA recent Bank of America analyst note estimated that 4.6 million workers exited the labor force during the pandemic Ė and only half are expected to rejoin by the end of the year. For workers earning less than $32,000 annually, it's more financially lucrative to collect government aid, the analyst note said.Ē


32k a year is a government problem!
That is slightly more than the $15/hour the Democrats are proposing as minimum wage. Hmmmmm....
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Old 05-11-2021, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by korg128
Change of topic but any rumors about Jetblue opening a new crew base somplace? Chicago, Denver, Seattle.

Also and I guess I heard that now there is talk of the JB / American merger.

Thanks.
There was talk by Scott L (network/revenue/planning guy) pre-pandemic of possibly opening a new focus city in 3-5 years, but none of those cities. Iím sure covid has affected that though and havenít heard anything else about it in a long time. Nothing I see points to a new focus city or crew base, at least in the short term. Focus seems to be on growing existing cities (NYC/BOS first for the NEA, then likely LAX, with some south Florida mixed in, then lastly MCO).

EWR possibly could be a crew baseóbut they will likely bargain for it to be included as a JFK co-base in the next section 6 firstÖor, if they renegotiate LOA13 based on the arbitration results, maybe try then too. I just donít see them opening it right now as a separate base without a fight to get it included in JFK. LAS and RDU may have enough flights/overnights to justify a base in the next 5 years, but Iím not holding my breath for either. Iíve heard SFO tossed around, but I think if that ever happens itíd be a long way off (5-10 years?). Then thereís the rumor of AUS or BNA Iíve heard a few times, but I donít see either happening anytime soon. So my answer: Iím not planning on any new crew bases in the next 5 years, outside of EWR being added as a co-base if the pilot group gives it away, or possibly as a new base altogether.

Regarding an AA merger rumor: there is always a B6 merger rumor. AA is the rumor du jour because of the NEA. I just donít see the DOJ allowing a AA+B6 merger, unless possibly AA shrank significantly and went thru a bankruptcy first. Not impossible, but also not likely imo. I think AA/B6 each kind of has the best of both worlds for themselves as it stands with the NEA. A merger would cause more divestiture and large cost for integration, with a decade+ of merger related issues (look no further than current AA with their HP/L-US/L-AA integration). AA & B6 are already getting a lot of the benefit of a merger (network integration and FF base) without incurring the associated costs and having to streamline / convert / integrate products. The only B6 merger I see as possible is with AlaskaÖbut even that doesnít seem likely, at least not presently. I guess a merger with NK/F9 (or even breeze down the road) could be possible as wellÖbut I see those as even less likely.
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