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Old 03-15-2022, 07:48 PM
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Say we take the 3% and 30 Million. Now what. I'm curious to what kind of leverage we'll have when negotiating a new pay scale? Will management say "we already gave you guys a 3% raise". What about next time they violate the contract, because they will do it again, and we go to mediation will an arbitrator say "well there is precedence here" and allow management to move forward without any real consequences?
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Old 03-16-2022, 02:31 PM
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I agree I can see the sell. And I am actually leaning No again, but lets sort out our squabbles when the time comes and not be divided in our union, it will not help us. CK can help with that unity by stepping aside but right now he's not and this is what we have.

CK can buy my yes vote right now if he agrees to step aside if it passes.


Removing him from cba 2 will pay dividends worth multitudes more than this s sandwich loa


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Old 03-16-2022, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CafeConLeche View Post
Say we take the 3% and 30 Million. Now what. I'm curious to what kind of leverage we'll have when negotiating a new pay scale? Will management say "we already gave you guys a 3% raise".
I think anyone could look them square in the eye and say “the 3% was the resolution of our drawn out mediation and the amount settled upon for you breaking our agreement. Do you not remember the last 2 years we went through?” I think the scenario is a little far fetched.
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Old 03-16-2022, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Softpayman View Post
I think anyone could look them square in the eye and say “the 3% was the resolution of our drawn out mediation and the amount settled upon for you breaking our agreement. Do you not remember the last 2 years we went through?” I think the scenario is a little far fetched.
You were a yes vote on LOA 13 correct?
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Old 03-16-2022, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
You were a yes vote on LOA 13 correct?
Incorrect. I did think 12 made sense.
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Old 03-16-2022, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Softpayman View Post
Incorrect. I did think 12 made sense.
But did you get to vote on 12?
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Old 03-16-2022, 05:19 PM
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Consider this… the $30 million is roughly equal to the 2% we would have gotten if we had voted for the 2% a year ago. It’s not a bonus, it’s just reparations.
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Old 03-16-2022, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer View Post
Consider this… the $30 million is roughly equal to the 2% we would have gotten if we had voted for the 2% a year ago. It’s not a bonus, it’s just reparations.
That 2% was always scheduled to start in May 2022, no raise last year from LOA 13.
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Old 03-17-2022, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver View Post
That 2% was always scheduled to start in May 2022, no raise last year from LOA 13.
I had forgotten that the 2% raise was to be delayed for a year. Thanks for the correction.
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Old 03-19-2022, 05:38 AM
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A friend of mine said there are pages and pages and pages on the trade board of people dropping most of their trips (BOS320FO) for March and April. What's that all about?
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