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05-11-2025 | 01:29 PM
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Not allowing the company to do VILs was definitely a mistake and counter productive. I find it very odd the union rolled over and agreed to a 3% raise in exchange for scope relief (at a time when inflation was well
above 3%), but is taking a hard line stance on VILs which benefit many pilots.
above 3%), but is taking a hard line stance on VILs which benefit many pilots.
05-11-2025 | 02:15 PM
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Not allowing the company to do VILs was definitely a mistake and counter productive. I find it very odd the union rolled over and agreed to a 3% raise in exchange for scope relief (at a time when inflation was well
above 3%), but is taking a hard line stance on VILs which benefit many pilots.
above 3%), but is taking a hard line stance on VILs which benefit many pilots.
05-12-2025 | 04:55 AM
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new group in the MEC. The group that took the 3% actually took 1% before the pilots revolted. That group would haven given the company whatever they wanted right now.
we didn’t “deny” the company VILs. We simply took an off ramp that was pre negotiated. I’m sure the union would be happy to negotiate continued use or God forbid actually have the company show up to section 6 negotiations ready to make progress.
we didn’t “deny” the company VILs. We simply took an off ramp that was pre negotiated. I’m sure the union would be happy to negotiate continued use or God forbid actually have the company show up to section 6 negotiations ready to make progress.
05-18-2025 | 11:42 PM
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VIL Subjugates seniority plain and simple and $hit rolls downhill. It doesn’t lead to having a weekend or more days off. We just get less productive trips that are un commutable because “They need to use us.” There is absolutely no difference between paying two guys 70 or one guy 85 and one 55. Just because one guy sits at home doesn’t mean the other wants to work 85. Without VIL there is a chance that those who get LCR may not be called or escalated as much. Theoretically the grids should be closer to green allowing drops and swap more often and maybe, possibly on a weekend dare I say. Thats a win for a lot more then the few who bid and awarded these damn VIL’s
Why can’t pilots grasp this?
Seniority was permitted to be abrogated, plain and simple.
05-20-2025 | 06:02 AM
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05-20-2025 | 06:17 AM
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I live in base, and have never utilized a VIL. With that said, I am pro VIL. It it helps the company and guys get time off, thats great. I am also pro MEC stopping the VILs. The ones pi$$ed off are the ones who are getting paid to stay at home, and think they have a right to continue to do so. Sorry guys. Time to get back to work.
05-20-2025 | 07:55 AM
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05-20-2025 | 08:12 PM
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Well there it is. I guess I do not have to take offense to your previous comments. You do seem to acknowledge that VIL is bad for the pilot group. You acknowledge that the company took advantage of VIL as well as cancellation of a bid knowing that they would cancel said bid during vacation bidding. You acknowledge that the company decided not to honor awards of the yearly bid. You say they have abrogated seniority, I say they’ve subjugated us. I agree. They do not deserve to offer VIL. Those p!ssed off be damned. Get back to work! VIL is evil and f%#ks our bidding, it helps no one. It doesn’t “save jobs”. It does nothing except pull money from the left pocket and put it in the right. I praise the MEC for disallowing VIL. I hope you all do too.
05-21-2025 | 03:31 AM
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