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02-03-2017, 07:21 AM
#2601
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
LOLOL- always
UAL buying B6 is too good to be true. So prob doesnt happen-hope Im wrong.
UAL buying B6 is too good to be true. So prob doesnt happen-hope Im wrong.
A wise man once said....be careful what you wish for.
02-03-2017, 08:06 AM
#2602
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Originally Posted by BunkerF16
This post comes up every once and a while and I'm always curious. Other than the fact you may live in a UA hub, why do you think Unitied buying JB would be a good thing as a JB pilot?
A wise man once said....be careful what you wish for.
A wise man once said....be careful what you wish for.
I do not get the feeling that B6 feels we deserve, or that it can afford, an industry-standard contract. I know we have butted heads before about this 16, but Ive been through contract negotiations, and its deja vu.
I mean it when I say "I hope im wrong" and that you and the" believers" are right, because then we all win. In the meantime, Im hoping for a sale of jetblue to UAL. Not perfect, but it would mean a nice contract, albeit after a few tumultuous transition years. Who knows.
02-03-2017, 08:21 AM
#2603
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
I hear ya 16. Im not senior enough to lose much and prob not junior enough to get furloughed in the event of a purchase. I do live much closer to 2 UAL bases and their contract will always dominate anything we get.
I do not get the feeling that B6 feels we deserve, or that it can afford, an industry-standard contract. I know we have butted heads before about this 16, but Ive been through contract negotiations, and its deja vu.
I mean it when I say "I hope im wrong" and that you and the" believers" are right, because then we all win. In the meantime, Im hoping for a sale of jetblue to UAL. Not perfect, but it would mean a nice contract, albeit after a few tumultuous transition years. Who knows.
I do not get the feeling that B6 feels we deserve, or that it can afford, an industry-standard contract. I know we have butted heads before about this 16, but Ive been through contract negotiations, and its deja vu.
I mean it when I say "I hope im wrong" and that you and the" believers" are right, because then we all win. In the meantime, Im hoping for a sale of jetblue to UAL. Not perfect, but it would mean a nice contract, albeit after a few tumultuous transition years. Who knows.
02-03-2017, 08:40 AM
#2604
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Joined APC: May 2013
Posts: 2,594
Originally Posted by BunkerF16
I hear ya. I understand the consternation with our contract. It's painful to see everyone get market-rate contracts as we trudge along at the levels we're at. We're all only in this gig for a finite amount of time, and every day that goes by, is another one wasted with the sub par PEA.....sounds like the FO window keeps getting fewer and less qualified candidates......management is going to have to decide, are we a career airline stepping stone, or a destination airline.....whether we get bought/merge down the road will be determined by how they answer that question....
, are thinkin about a move, JB is in denial about its appeal. I really believe they will gamble and expect that most will cave before the airline is fatally damaged. I had accepted that this would be my last airline, but after their recent shenanigans, Im finishing up my last few credits for my bachelors and planning on a move in 6-18 months. I hope we have a T/A by then (for comparison), but if a legacy offer is on the table, I am gone.
02-03-2017, 08:50 AM
#2605
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Position: Airbus 320 Right Seat
Posts: 1,440
Bozo
Meanwhile I just showed up to my commute gate , and a nice gate agent I know comes up to tel me that last time I commuted home a FA complained cause I didn't help clean, this is what is has become here . It's us versus them mentality and blame the company.
Really not what I envisioned a couple years back .
Meanwhile I just showed up to my commute gate , and a nice gate agent I know comes up to tel me that last time I commuted home a FA complained cause I didn't help clean, this is what is has become here . It's us versus them mentality and blame the company.
Really not what I envisioned a couple years back .
02-03-2017, 08:52 AM
#2606
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
Agree with all of that. Im 45 and around 2350 seniority. So Im getting weekends/holidays off and easily makin 140K. Ive spoken to guys senior to me that have either interviewed or have interviews later this month. I just got my resume, logbooks tightened up and Im calling in favors. If guys like me, who are comfortable and middle-aged , are thinkin about a move, JB is in denial about its appeal. I really believe they will gamble and expect that most will cave before the airline is fatally damaged. I had accepted that this would be my last airline, but after their recent shenanigans, Im finishing up my last few credits for my bachelors and planning on a move in 6-18 months. I hope we have a T/A by then (for comparison), but if a legacy offer is on the table, I am gone.
, are thinkin about a move, JB is in denial about its appeal. I really believe they will gamble and expect that most will cave before the airline is fatally damaged. I had accepted that this would be my last airline, but after their recent shenanigans, Im finishing up my last few credits for my bachelors and planning on a move in 6-18 months. I hope we have a T/A by then (for comparison), but if a legacy offer is on the table, I am gone.I'm in the mid 600s, and 49.....I'm anchored here for the long haul....for better or worse.....
02-03-2017, 09:07 AM
#2607
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Position: Square root of the variance and average of the variation
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Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
Agree with all of that. Im 45 and around 2350 seniority. So Im getting weekends/holidays off and easily makin 140K. Ive spoken to guys senior to me that have either interviewed or have interviews later this month. I just got my resume, logbooks tightened up and Im calling in favors. If guys like me, who are comfortable and middle-aged , are thinkin about a move, JB is in denial about its appeal. I really believe they will gamble and expect that most will cave before the airline is fatally damaged. I had accepted that this would be my last airline, but after their recent shenanigans, Im finishing up my last few credits for my bachelors and planning on a move in 6-18 months. I hope we have a T/A by then (for comparison), but if a legacy offer is on the table, I am gone.
, are thinkin about a move, JB is in denial about its appeal. I really believe they will gamble and expect that most will cave before the airline is fatally damaged. I had accepted that this would be my last airline, but after their recent shenanigans, Im finishing up my last few credits for my bachelors and planning on a move in 6-18 months. I hope we have a T/A by then (for comparison), but if a legacy offer is on the table, I am gone.
02-03-2017, 09:17 AM
#2608
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: JetRight, JetLeft
Posts: 760
Originally Posted by Std Deviation
46. 47 in May. Low 2800s. Thinking. Thinking. It's the commute that's killing me. DFW-JFK. UGLY.
Living in base, it turns into a different job.
Good luck thinking it over.
Gup
02-03-2017, 09:22 AM
#2609
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Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,918
Originally Posted by rightside02
Bozo
Meanwhile I just showed up to my commute gate , and a nice gate agent I know comes up to tel me that last time I commuted home a FA complained cause I didn't help clean, this is what is has become here . It's us versus them mentality and blame the company.
Really not what I envisioned a couple years back .
Meanwhile I just showed up to my commute gate , and a nice gate agent I know comes up to tel me that last time I commuted home a FA complained cause I didn't help clean, this is what is has become here . It's us versus them mentality and blame the company.
Really not what I envisioned a couple years back .
I think it's always been there but just covered up. How many times did you here FAs talk about bus guys? It was only different for us 190 guys since we were stuck with them for 4 days so you couldn't just leave them. As always it depends on the person. But yes now that the company put a focus on it there does seem to be more issues.
02-03-2017, 10:33 AM
#2610
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Position: At JBLU
Posts: 337
Well.....don't leave without your new OVERCOAT.
Leather jackets are outlawed this fall and being replaced
"FOR FREE....AT NO COST TO YOU..........by simply deducting $100 out of your uniform allowance"
You can't make this $hit up!!
Leather jackets are outlawed this fall and being replaced
"FOR FREE....AT NO COST TO YOU..........by simply deducting $100 out of your uniform allowance"
You can't make this $hit up!!
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