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05-22-2017, 06:56 PM
#3581
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 155
Originally Posted by BeatNavy
Lol so impressive. You injected yourself after my post to southerner, falsely attributed words to me (particularly "steal"), and twisted the context of what I said (to him). Again, here you are with the false attributions (allegedly now I'm knocking your education, that I don't care about). Where in my post did I mention anything about your education? Comprehension does not equal or really relate to education level. But you know this, right doctor? And you didn't comprehend or properly address my post. Calling that out is not a personal insult. Compare transcripts? Lol. Ok doctor. Again, the lanyard comment was at southerner (I know who he is and he doesn't wear it). So why would you even mention your lanyard since that was to southerner? Thanks for serving on a committee.
STD Dev probably has a little bell he rings when he want a refreshment. "Jiles bring me another Brandy, I am busy with my Novel".
05-28-2017, 10:57 AM
#3582
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: A220 CA
Posts: 602
here's a question for people who know contracts from other majors.
i'm currently an a320 fo. if i upgrade to the e190, then jetblue gets rid of the e190s, what is likely to happen to me? what is generally the language in contracts for a scenario like that?
i'm currently an a320 fo. if i upgrade to the e190, then jetblue gets rid of the e190s, what is likely to happen to me? what is generally the language in contracts for a scenario like that?
05-28-2017, 03:54 PM
#3583
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: B6
Posts: 1,047
Originally Posted by dontsurf
here's a question for people who know contracts from other majors.
i'm currently an a320 fo. if i upgrade to the e190, then jetblue gets rid of the e190s, what is likely to happen to me? what is generally the language in contracts for a scenario like that?
i'm currently an a320 fo. if i upgrade to the e190, then jetblue gets rid of the e190s, what is likely to happen to me? what is generally the language in contracts for a scenario like that?
05-28-2017, 04:36 PM
#3584
SDQ Base Chief
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,610
Originally Posted by dontsurf
here's a question for people who know contracts from other majors.
i'm currently an a320 fo. if i upgrade to the e190, then jetblue gets rid of the e190s, what is likely to happen to me? what is generally the language in contracts for a scenario like that?
i'm currently an a320 fo. if i upgrade to the e190, then jetblue gets rid of the e190s, what is likely to happen to me? what is generally the language in contracts for a scenario like that?
05-29-2017, 05:04 AM
#3585
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: 190 captain and “Pro-pilot”
Posts: 2,918
Originally Posted by Flyby1206
Generally speaking when a company gets rid of a base or fleet they do it slowly over the course of a year or more. They run displacement bids, basically kicking out a portion of the base/seat each time. The re-training takes a while so they can't just do it all at once. When you are displaced you generally can go any other base/seat in the company that your seniority can hold and any seat/equip lock is eliminated.
If/when they do it, it will most likely be under a CBA and I doubt it would happen fast. The only real way to pull it off with out much of a problem is.
1 go with the E2.....differences training
Easy
2 just go all bus, slowly get rid of the 190 and transition everyone over.
Kind of easy
3 get a new fleet type. Now you need all new training you will have 3 fleets for a little while and move everyone around.
More complex
05-29-2017, 09:49 AM
#3586
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Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: A220 CA
Posts: 602
ok, thanks for the info. i am very junior and i was putting this scenario out there as if i would be able to upgrade on the e190, but not on the airbus.
and if they got rid of the e190, i'd still be junior to all the airbus captains. so the only place to go in that scenario (assuming they just got rid of the e190 and had all airbuses) would be back to the right seat of the airbus?
there'd be no special dispensation for having been a captain, it just goes right back to what my seniority can now hold? i was just curious how something like that shakes out.
and if they got rid of the e190, i'd still be junior to all the airbus captains. so the only place to go in that scenario (assuming they just got rid of the e190 and had all airbuses) would be back to the right seat of the airbus?
there'd be no special dispensation for having been a captain, it just goes right back to what my seniority can now hold? i was just curious how something like that shakes out.
05-29-2017, 01:42 PM
#3587
On Reserve
Joined APC: Aug 2008
Posts: 10
Originally Posted by dontsurf
ok, thanks for the info. i am very junior and i was putting this scenario out there as if i would be able to upgrade on the e190, but not on the airbus.
and if they got rid of the e190, i'd still be junior to all the airbus captains. so the only place to go in that scenario (assuming they just got rid of the e190 and had all airbuses) would be back to the right seat of the airbus?
there'd be no special dispensation for having been a captain, it just goes right back to what my seniority can now hold? i was just curious how something like that shakes out.
and if they got rid of the e190, i'd still be junior to all the airbus captains. so the only place to go in that scenario (assuming they just got rid of the e190 and had all airbuses) would be back to the right seat of the airbus?
there'd be no special dispensation for having been a captain, it just goes right back to what my seniority can now hold? i was just curious how something like that shakes out.
05-29-2017, 01:43 PM
#3588
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,445
Originally Posted by dontsurf
ok, thanks for the info. i am very junior and i was putting this scenario out there as if i would be able to upgrade on the e190, but not on the airbus.
and if they got rid of the e190, i'd still be junior to all the airbus captains. so the only place to go in that scenario (assuming they just got rid of the e190 and had all airbuses) would be back to the right seat of the airbus?
there'd be no special dispensation for having been a captain, it just goes right back to what my seniority can now hold? i was just curious how something like that shakes out.
and if they got rid of the e190, i'd still be junior to all the airbus captains. so the only place to go in that scenario (assuming they just got rid of the e190 and had all airbuses) would be back to the right seat of the airbus?
there'd be no special dispensation for having been a captain, it just goes right back to what my seniority can now hold? i was just curious how something like that shakes out.
05-30-2017, 05:24 PM
#3589
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2013
Posts: 2,594
Originally Posted by pilotpayne
Exactly.
If/when they do it, it will most likely be under a CBA and I doubt it would happen fast. The only real way to pull it off with out much of a problem is.
1 go with the E2.....differences training
Easy
2 just go all bus, slowly get rid of the 190 and transition everyone over.
Kind of easy
3 get a new fleet type. Now you need all new training you will have 3 fleets for a little while and move everyone around.
More complex
If/when they do it, it will most likely be under a CBA and I doubt it would happen fast. The only real way to pull it off with out much of a problem is.
1 go with the E2.....differences training
Easy
2 just go all bus, slowly get rid of the 190 and transition everyone over.
Kind of easy
3 get a new fleet type. Now you need all new training you will have 3 fleets for a little while and move everyone around.
More complex
Anyone wanting real movement would be wise to get to a legacy where the retirements are high. B6 relies on slow growth for progression.
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