Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > JetBlue
JetBlue Latest and Greatest >

JetBlue Latest and Greatest

Notices

JetBlue Latest and Greatest

Old 11-21-2017, 08:58 PM
  #4711  
Gets Weekends Off
 
dontsurf's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: A220 CA
Posts: 600
Default

Originally Posted by Flyby1206 View Post
It wouldn't be fair to just remove 1 slot (who gets to keep who gets removed) so they will remove all slots that were granted recently (5 for JB, 4 for SWA).

This is all just my guess based on some limited snooping on the LGB airport page
that might be the case. i hope so.

and as for other people who don't want long beach as a base, that really is not shared by people who live around here and like a nice easy drive to work, etc. why not just say we should add bases, grow bases, etc? why wish for the base to go away? (rhetorical questions meant to provoke thought)
dontsurf is offline  
Old 11-22-2017, 03:51 AM
  #4712  
Banned
 
Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,122
Default

Originally Posted by dontsurf View Post
that might be the case. i hope so.

and as for other people who don't want long beach as a base, that really is not shared by people who live around here and like a nice easy drive to work, etc. why not just say we should add bases, grow bases, etc? why wish for the base to go away? (rhetorical questions meant to provoke thought)
Long Beach, by far, is the best base in the system. Itís given a lot of people a bad taste in their mouth, not because of the base, but the mismanagement of the entire operation west of the Hudson River. This company hasnít opened a new base since it opened in 2006. In those same 11 years weíve doubled in size. Iíd love to see a Bay Area base or Las Vegas.
aldonite7667 is offline  
Old 11-22-2017, 04:09 AM
  #4713  
Gets Weekends Off
 
CaptCoolHand's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: Left,Right, Left, Right,Right,Left, Right, Left
Posts: 3,150
Default

MCO opened at the end of 2008.
Itís west of the hudson🤪

Originally Posted by aldonite7667 View Post
Long Beach, by far, is the best base in the system. Itís given a lot of people a bad taste in their mouth, not because of the base, but the mismanagement of the entire operation west of the Hudson River. This company hasnít opened a new base since it opened in 2006. In those same 11 years weíve doubled in size. Iíd love to see a Bay Area base or Las Vegas.
CaptCoolHand is offline  
Old 11-22-2017, 04:18 AM
  #4714  
Banned
 
Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,122
Default

Originally Posted by CaptCoolHand View Post
MCO opened at the end of 2008.
Itís west of the hudson🤪
With like 8 guys based there, I stand corrected. Everything is fine! ;-)
aldonite7667 is offline  
Old 11-22-2017, 04:21 AM
  #4715  
Gets Weekends Off
 
GuppyPuppy's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: JetRight, JetLeft
Posts: 760
Default

LGB opened before '04.

GP
GuppyPuppy is offline  
Old 11-22-2017, 06:03 AM
  #4716  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 917
Default

Originally Posted by aldonite7667 View Post
Long Beach, by far, is the best base in the system. It’s given a lot of people a bad taste in their mouth, not because of the base, but the mismanagement of the entire operation west of the Hudson River. This company hasn’t opened a new base since it opened in 2006. In those same 11 years we’ve doubled in size. I’d love to see a Bay Area base or Las Vegas.
What makes you say that LGB is the best base in the system? Honest question and not disagreeing with you necessarily.

I would love to see more West coast, but I think JB blew it as usual. We could have jumped on SJC, but AS and Frontier beat us again.
capt707 is offline  
Old 11-22-2017, 06:08 AM
  #4717  
SDQ Base Chief
 
Flyby1206's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: 320 CA
Posts: 5,572
Default

Originally Posted by dontsurf View Post
that might be the case. i hope so.

and as for other people who don't want long beach as a base, that really is not shared by people who live around here and like a nice easy drive to work, etc. why not just say we should add bases, grow bases, etc? why wish for the base to go away? (rhetorical questions meant to provoke thought)
Just to play devil's advocate...

LGB is a great base, great people, location, etc etc... BUT it is one of our least profitable in terms of revenue/ASM and is located in a region where we are surrounded by competitors with far better hubs and market penetration.

Once the company realizes we will never be a significant west coast airline they will take a hard look in the mirror and close down LGB (but maintain a LAX base to cover transcons). This will allow for the planes to be redistributed to the east coast where we can make a much higher revenue premium and a more efficient use of the planes. I suspect some time in 2018 JFK will remove slot controls and this will be the catalyst for closing LGB and sending those planes back east.

Additionally, the only way we will grow out west is a merger. Alaska is our best suited partner, and as it stands now we are hurting more than helping. Cutting LGB will help them in a small way by removing a competitor from the west coast short haul markets.

I do believe LGB will be significantly cut, if not closed completely in the next 1-3yrs. We will maintain a small LAX base, maybe some sort of SFO satellite as well. Any non-transcon west coast flight will be cut. Alaska merger by 2022.
Flyby1206 is offline  
Old 11-22-2017, 06:08 AM
  #4718  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 1,316
Default

Originally Posted by capt707 View Post
What makes you say that LGB is the best base in the system? Honest question and not disagreeing with you necessarily.

I would love to see more West coast, but I think JB blew it as usual. We could have jumped on SJC, but AS and Frontier beat us again.
Weíll merge with AS eventually and get their west coast bases.
Xtreme87 is offline  
Old 11-22-2017, 06:35 AM
  #4719  
Banned
 
Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,122
Default

Originally Posted by capt707 View Post
What makes you say that LGB is the best base in the system? Honest question and not disagreeing with you necessarily.

I would love to see more West coast, but I think JB blew it as usual. We could have jumped on SJC, but AS and Frontier beat us again.

Quiet, walk to terminal from parking lot, good weather, closes up shop at 930p. If youíre local itís good. But I wouldnít want to commute there.
aldonite7667 is offline  
Old 11-22-2017, 06:36 AM
  #4720  
The REAL Bluedriver
 
Joined APC: Sep 2011
Position: Airbus Capt
Posts: 6,877
Default

Originally Posted by capt707 View Post
What makes you say that LGB is the best base in the system? Honest question and not disagreeing with you necessarily.

I would love to see more West coast, but I think JB blew it as usual. We could have jumped on SJC, but AS and Frontier beat us again.
Completely agree. I think we underbid an opportunity in LAS as well.
Bluedriver is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Zoomie
Major
36
01-28-2015 11:44 AM
iahflyr
Major
27
09-30-2014 09:04 AM
Mason32
Regional
270
07-27-2010 06:01 PM
Scott34567
Regional
39
05-29-2008 07:08 PM
Sir James
Major
0
07-29-2005 07:02 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Your Privacy Choices