A330FoodCritic

I am at AA and I am not upset with any JB pilot.

lavMan

Well at least you get to look forward to cleaning cabin in between turns, and 2 weeks of vacation after 15years?

goose15

Well, it’s actually 3 weeks of vacation after year 10, just so you know. At least get your facts straight, if you going to come here and talk sh!t.

And no, we don’t clean in between turns, unless you are a juicer.

11Alpha

Stay away from the booze lavMan, with all due respect... you sound like a moron. As you were

PotatoChip

What? Been at JB for 1.5 years, never set foot in the cabin. IOE included.

And since I'm here.... Sincere hope that no one gets furloughed on any side. I have been through two already. It sucks.
I'm thankful for what our MEC/NC was able to negotiate. I don't believe any of it to be concessionary. Again, I've worked under a concessionary contract (post 9/11), and it took SEVENTEEN years to get back what we lost. I'm not trying to go back down that road. Personally, I'm happy to trade five hours of credit guarantee for two more days off to keep me employed for seven more months. That's a win. (Especially with snapback language). I greatly value our scope language, and am glad the language in section 1 was unaltered. The exception granted in the LOA, to me, seems like a prudent business move by both parties that will hopefully enable both ships to weather the same storm.

Papa Bear

They are going to do a CARES2 and I haven't heard any language being discussed about Loa12 being recalled if it happens.

Combatcraig

You sure about that? I’d be surprised that’s the case.

feltf4

cares 2 ain’t happening mate. If cares 2 happens it’s not going to be directed at airlines.

Clear Right

IMHO no way CARES 2.0 includes more airline worker relief in the form of grants, maybe more cheap Govt backed loans at best. The country is too much in debt at 27 T+ and climbing, and the public has very little sympathy for airline workers that have been getting relief for this long already. (Not to sound political moderators) But CARES 2.0 will target large constituents of the voter population to prepare for Nov election, airline workers are just not a big enough group to garner billions more in free money/grants. We will get some good press, maybe a loan or two, but no more free payroll guarantee IMO.

Big business, Wall Street and Government knows that the Airline’s will adjust to the reduced demand with furloughs and they know the industry will recover over time, it may be smaller, but it will recover. Very sorry to say Oct 1st is going to be a devastating day for a large portion of the airline industry if travel demand does not return quickly in a big way.

Let’s all hope I am 100% wrong.

nuball5

All the airlines just took out huge loans from the government. I could see the terms of those loans being relaxed without much publicity or fanfare maybe. Either way everyone has a good amount of liquidity for the short/medium term and now all have their plans of slashing payroll costs either through voluntary or involuntary means.