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Old 10-22-2020, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rvr1800 View Post
5 three days paying 80 hours with 5 red eyes. Yeah no thanks.

I bet it still doesn’t go junior though.

I’m hoping it goes really senior! Move those guys out of my category.

I mean come on you can go home and tell your friends all about how you flew over the pond. How exciting!! You wouldn’t some some junior A hole stealing your glory! Better bid it quick senior guys!


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Old 10-22-2020, 06:24 PM
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Why do people get defensive and aggressive about Europe flying? If senior guys want to bid it, they will. So instead of a West coast red eye or a Caribbean redeye they’ll go to London and have a nap each way. The majority of pilots I know enjoy doing it at some point in their career, some stay doing it, others are happy to have done it but are happy to be domestic again.
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Old 10-22-2020, 07:15 PM
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Why do people get defensive and aggressive about Europe flying? If senior guys want to bid it, they will. So instead of a West coast red eye or a Caribbean redeye they’ll go to London and have a nap each way. The majority of pilots I know enjoy doing it at some point in their career, some stay doing it, others are happy to have done it but are happy to be domestic again.
From what they said today, it sounds like you’ll probably be able to pick up domestic trips in addition to your Europe award each month. I’m guessing that would make it go more senior.
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Old 10-22-2020, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Softpayman View Post
Why do people get defensive and aggressive about Europe flying? If senior guys want to bid it, they will. So instead of a West coast red eye or a Caribbean redeye they’ll go to London and have a nap each way. The majority of pilots I know enjoy doing it at some point in their career, some stay doing it, others are happy to have done it but are happy to be domestic again.
You've gotta make sure to act like the newest different thing to do, aircraft or qol wise, is not worth a second thought...case in point: introduction of Mint, NEO, LR, A220, transatlantic flying etc. Etc....you know..."who caaares" except they do care...one way or the other
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Old 10-23-2020, 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Speedbird2263 View Post
You've gotta make sure to act like the newest different thing to do, aircraft or qol wise, is not worth a second thought...case in point: introduction of Mint, NEO, LR, A220, transatlantic flying etc. Etc....you know..."who caaares" except they do care...one way or the other
Exactly. I’ll be the first to admit that I’m interested in the Europe flying. I’d need to know more details first ( can we pick up in base, can we simply bid out on a following system bid etc).
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Old 10-23-2020, 03:49 AM
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I was under the impression that this stuff was right around the corner. (Bid) but seems like it’s further off than expected.
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Old 10-23-2020, 04:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Softpayman View Post
Why do people get defensive and aggressive about Europe flying? If senior guys want to bid it, they will. So instead of a West coast red eye or a Caribbean redeye they’ll go to London and have a nap each way. The majority of pilots I know enjoy doing it at some point in their career, some stay doing it, others are happy to have done it but are happy to be domestic again.
Who’s getting defensive and aggressive? I simply pointed out that 16 hour three days are not very enticing. The napping part does make the red eye a little better. But 5 three day trips will almost always touch at least one weekend and you’ll be working different days of the week each week. That type of schedule outweighs any interest in London for me.

I do think it’s new and exciting though. And I’m glad we’re doing it.
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Old 10-23-2020, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by feltf4 View Post
I was under the impression that this stuff was right around the corner. (Bid) but seems like it’s further off than expected.
I could be wrong but I want to say, it was due to some drop off in bookings over the Nov/Dec period. So they pushed it back to when they will have a better picture of demand vs deliveries ..ect.
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Old 10-23-2020, 08:40 AM
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So no supplemental bid with 220 next month?
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Old 10-23-2020, 08:53 AM
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WC said sometime still this year. So maybe December. Nothing has really changed in terms of a huge drop in demand lately.
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