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Old 04-06-2017, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by TallFlyer
Truth be told, the longer JB takes to hire me, the more I'm leaning towards staying at AAG, froma purely monetary perspective. If ya'll get a good CBA though, that'll change the equation.
In the long run I doubt that we would have better contracts than those of the big 3. I think the best we can hope for is something equal.

With that in mind your seniority as an Airbus captain will accrue much quicker at AA than it would at JB. All pilots senior to you at JB will be A320 captains. Whereas at AA those senior to you will be spread out as widebody and 757 captains.

If you plan on commuting to work, it is a no-brainer....stay with AAG. If you want to live in domicile and drive to work consider this:

JFK - both
BOS- both
FLL- both (MIA for AA)
MCO - JB
LGB- both (LAX for both)
ORD - AA
CLT - AA
PHL - AA
DFW - AA

As for BOS, currently senior at AA. Will they grow the domicile? Unknown. Will JB shrink MCO? Unknown.

Good luck with your decision. Lots to think about.

Remember....74% of AA pilots gone in 15 years. At JB that number is 28%.

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Old 04-06-2017, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by GuppyPuppy
Agreed. If I were younger and/or less senior I'd bail for AA in a heartbeat.

AA will retire 74% of their seniority list in the next 15 years. JB will retire 28% of their list in the next 15 years.

Do what you want, but know what you are getting into.

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Do you think JB will grow 40 to 50% in the next 15 years?
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Old 04-06-2017, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
Do you think JB will grow 40 to 50% in the next 15 years?
Don't know, do you. JB frequently defers orders. They also seem to be interested in pleasing Wall Street more than ever before. So we can NOT count on forever growth here.
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Old 04-06-2017, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
Do you think JB will grow 40 to 50% in the next 15 years?
Based on history, no. Before we got the E190 management was very excited to tell us that they had identified over 600 market pairs where that jet could be profitable. They said they expected to take delivery of all orders and options for a total of 201 E190s. We've been stagnant at 60 for 4 years. We've deferred and adjusted deliveries on the Airbus at least 5 times (all adjusted lower).

Could we grow that much in 15 years? Yes, but I think a merger is more likely.

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Old 04-06-2017, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by GuppyPuppy
Based on history, no. Before we got the E190 management was very excited to tell us that they had identified over 600 market pairs where that jet could be profitable. They said they expected to take delivery of all orders and options for a total of 201 E190s. We've been stagnant at 60 for 4 years. We've deferred and adjusted deliveries on the Airbus at least 5 times (all adjusted lower).

Could we grow that much in 15 years? Yes, but I think a merger is more likely.

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Gotta merge with Alaska and become a major LCC powerhouse. Then pick up HA and take over the world.
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Old 04-06-2017, 09:31 AM
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or United buys us and call it a day
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Old 04-06-2017, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Ted Striker
or United buys us and call it a day
From your lips to God's ear brotha
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Old 04-06-2017, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
Do you think JB will grow 40 to 50% in the next 15 years?
From my understanding, the major growth here took place while the legacies were licking their wounds post 9/11. Doubt that will happen again.
If we go to Europe, and thats a big IF--- It will lead to temporary growth, but I cant see us having 7000 pilots on property when I believe we'll lose so many to the legacies that have superior benefits etc.

Read again what GUP said above about 74% turnover at AA.
Ill take turnover above growth any day.
The caveat -- when will the FAA change the retirement age to 67/68?
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
Gotta merge with Alaska and become a major LCC powerhouse. Then pick up HA and take over the world.
The TRI-STATE-AREA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Age 67 is gonna effect you regardless of where you end up . Sucks esp for a young guy but is what it is
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