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Old 10-21-2018, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by sky jet View Post
I don't really understand the whining from a few people(at least captains) about life on the 767. Not a single one of you was forced to go to that airframe. I was here before we got the planes and knew exactly what the schedule would be and as such chose not to bid it. So knowing what it would be like why are you now biatching about the schedule. It's hub turns. Every freight airline since the Wright brothers that flies freight hub turns has had the same type schedule. There are plenty of old AIA guys here that would've told you what it was going to be like.
I’m pretty sure even the Atlas (767 fleet) has eliminated the long hub sits. One crew brings it in, goes to hotel, and another crew takes it out. Maybe ABX or ATI still have the long sits too, not sure........
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Old 10-21-2018, 10:22 PM
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I’m pretty sure even the Atlas (767 fleet) has eliminated the long hub sits. One crew brings it in, goes to hotel, and another crew takes it out. Maybe ABX or ATI still have the long sits too, not sure........
If you think K4 is every routinely going to let 76 crews fly from the out station to the hub.. or vice versa and only fly that every night ..you are dreaming... sure occasionally it will happen.. but they are generally going to get both inbound and outbound segments from the crews
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Old 10-22-2018, 04:26 AM
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Originally Posted by HercDriver130 View Post
If you think K4 is every routinely going to let 76 crews fly from the out station to the hub.. or vice versa and only fly that every night ..you are dreaming... sure occasionally it will happen.. but they are generally going to get both inbound and outbound segments from the crews
I agree and it’s too bad, especially for the crews. Since scheduling is unable to make the numbers work on their own, maybe they could just copy the Atlas way? At the very least, hire someone from Atlas crew scheduling who will divulge this coveted super secret strategy. If all else fails, I suppose crews will just need to start fatiguing out.
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Old 10-22-2018, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Checkers21 View Post
I agree and it’s too bad, especially for the crews. Since scheduling is unable to make the numbers work on their own, maybe they could just copy the Atlas way? At the very least, hire someone from Atlas crew scheduling who will divulge this coveted super secret strategy. If all else fails, I suppose crews will just need to start fatiguing out.
I'm pretty sure Atlas still hub turns like every other box carrier.....
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Old 10-22-2018, 06:18 AM
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Anyone here participating in the voluntary accident insurance that is offered thru our insurance provider? Curious to know thoughts or if anyone here found better coverage related to cost.

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Old 10-22-2018, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by goinaround View Post
I'm pretty sure Atlas still hub turns like every other box carrier.....
Atlas 76 crews get to CVG and go to the hotel +80% of the time. The few hub turn flights are very short flights in/out. We have had huge fatigue issues in the past but most have been mitigated.
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I'm pretty sure Atlas still hub turns like every other box carrier.....
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Old 10-22-2018, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Whale Driver View Post
Atlas 76 crews get to CVG and go to the hotel +80% of the time. The few hub turn flights are very short flights in/out. We have had huge fatigue issues in the past but most have been mitigated.
Thanks for that info.
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Old 10-22-2018, 08:33 PM
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App window closed on their website? Confirm?
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Old 10-23-2018, 04:10 AM
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App window closed on their website? Confirm?
If you go back a few pages. We think it might open next year.
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