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Old 10-16-2023, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Preacher74 View Post
What do you guys fly over there? Do you have any heavies? They need to pay more for heavy iron pilots in my opinion. Single pay scale like we have is BS and old school thinking.
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This totally applies to this post. Everybody is now dumber for reading your post.
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Old 10-19-2023, 05:34 AM
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Voting for the new MEC is now open. Think long and hard about who you want to support, and what your next council will look like. If you are happy with this contract, and the group that persuaded a significant number of individuals to vote it in, stay with the current leadership. If you have buyers remorse, and would like a fresh perspective vote for the Mossman slate. He and his team have the talent, and ability to move us forward.

The future is in your hands, you can make it whatever you want.
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Old 10-19-2023, 08:45 AM
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Changing leadership and unions you mean right? We spent a lot of years as teamsters and going back to the truck driver union would surely cause us to be at the bottom forever.
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Old 10-19-2023, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by catching waves View Post
Changing leadership and unions you mean right? We spent a lot of years as teamsters and going back to the truck driver union would surely cause us to be at the bottom forever.
For Christ's sake no one is talking about changing representation...get a grip
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Old 10-20-2023, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ex402dvr View Post
Voting for the new MEC is now open. Think long and hard about who you want to support, and what your next council will look like. If you are happy with this contract, and the group that persuaded a significant number of individuals to vote it in, stay with the current leadership. If you have buyers remorse, and would like a fresh perspective vote for the Mossman slate. He and his team have the talent, and ability to move us forward.

The future is in your hands, you can make it whatever you want.
Or get smart and vote with your feet. Everyone is hiring, there's no excuse for staying at Kalitta.
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Old 10-21-2023, 06:35 AM
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Or get smart and vote with your feet. Everyone is hiring, there's no excuse for staying at Kalitta.
Thanks CO. What a silly thing to write. Do you think that Pilots are to stupid to know that? Do you not think that they don’t look at all of the variables before deciding to stay? In your one dimensional world it may be a simple decision to leave, but to most others it gets complicated. I would think that the pilot group would be better off without people who look at the situation, amount of effort required to improve things and then think that the best option is to leave.
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Old 10-21-2023, 10:04 AM
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Or get smart and vote with your feet. Everyone is hiring, there's no excuse for staying at Kalitta.
I understand what you’re saying, but you miss the point. If I was a young man, I could look at the option of voting with my feet. Unfortunately, I won’t be around long enough to see a new contract, let along benefit from one. But this post is about voting for a new MEC, and a fresh perspective.

It’s important for everyone to evaluate how this current group has done representing the pilots. My opinion doesn’t matter, because of my short time left in the profession. What is noteworthy is the fact the current contract only passed by 17 votes, and it passed for three reasons. First, most of the older pilots voted yes, because of their age. I feel this was shortsighted, but it was a personal choice. Second, there was a large voting block that voted together, and third, and probably most importantly, around 150 eligible voters did not take five minutes of their time to case a vote. I encourage everyone to look at your options and determine who would make an effective leader, and then vote.
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Old 10-21-2023, 02:31 PM
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^^^^^ Well Said ^^^^^
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Old 10-21-2023, 03:23 PM
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Changing leadership and unions you mean right? We spent a lot of years as teamsters and going back to the truck driver union would surely cause us to be at the bottom forever.
If the airplane driver union is so good for you, why are you here complaining?

"The truck driver union" has been pretty good for pilots at Horizon. Maybe the local/bargaining group leadership is more important than the name of the national organization.
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[QUOTE= Maybe the local/bargaining group leadership is more important than the name of the national organization.[/QUOTE]

That last part is Ten Thousand Percent correct!!!
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