Kalitta Air now accepting FO applications
12-16-2015, 06:06 PM
#1241
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 19
What he said (above)! No kidding, what's the point of sharing information if you can't be honest about the current status of affairs? Keep living in a dream world if you want Mr. "Admin", but for me I'd rather know the truth.
Mr. "Admin", I now anticipate you being in charge of a now defunct, delusional, and inconsequential message board. Enjoy entertaining yourself...
Mr. "Admin", I now anticipate you being in charge of a now defunct, delusional, and inconsequential message board. Enjoy entertaining yourself...
12-16-2015, 07:10 PM
#1242
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 744 CA
Posts: 4,772
Originally Posted by longhauler
its funny the post from the owner of Fr8dog "I would like to ask to all of you who have left for greener pastures to NOT post negative thinks here and keep your negative opinions to yourselves!" Ok, that sounds exactly what the company wants. LL who's side are you on again?
12-16-2015, 07:54 PM
#1244
He who lies first, wins!
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: back in the saddle with sores!
Posts: 546
If you asking yourself "what did he mean in the post above?" Kalitta FE's and PFE's had/have a pay scale that is/was in line with the industry (with in 10%). The pilots on the other hand were left hanging, why? Well you can ask LL, HN, and MH. Usually you would set the CA rate and then the FO and FE rates would be a percentage of the CA rate, not in the K4 07 agreement. Run the numbers backwards, take the PFE rate and divide them by .6 to .7 and see were the payrates should have fallen.
Protocol interests have no place in bargaining.
Protocol interests have no place in bargaining.
12-18-2015, 03:12 AM
#1245
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Doing Just Fine
Posts: 356
Originally Posted by longhauler
If you asking yourself "what did he mean in the post above?" Kalitta FE's and PFE's had/have a pay scale that is/was in line with the industry (with in 10%). The pilots on the other hand were left hanging, why? Well you can ask LL, HN, and MH. Usually you would set the CA rate and then the FO and FE rates would be a percentage of the CA rate, not in the K4 07 agreement. Run the numbers backwards, take the PFE rate and divide them by .6 to .7 and see were the payrates should have fallen.
Protocol interests have no place in bargaining.
Protocol interests have no place in bargaining.
The company recently questioned why the negotiations team was made up of FO's and that this was unfairly representing the pilot group. This wasn't an issue in the past when it was all FE's negotiating with FE's.
12-19-2015, 02:07 PM
#1247
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 68
The only thing the FE's, "admin" amongst them, got right in the last contract was to protect and enrich themselves at the expense of every pilot. The 1500 hours that they are required to have is reduced to 1000 because they hold an FE. Ive actually over heard them saying they would write whatever it took into a logbook. Do they even HAVE a mere 1000 hours of C-150 experience? I guess we will find out in the accident investigation....
12-22-2015, 03:55 AM
#1248
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2013
Position: Doing Just Fine
Posts: 356
Originally Posted by goldfinger
The only thing the FE's, "admin" amongst them, got right in the last contract was to protect and enrich themselves at the expense of every pilot. The 1500 hours that they are required to have is reduced to 1000 because they hold an FE. Ive actually over heard them saying they would write whatever it took into a logbook. Do they even HAVE a mere 1000 hours of C-150 experience? I guess we will find out in the accident investigation....
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