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#91
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I think we all know what TM's point is. There are alot of people posting about how TM, Sky or people that have something critical to say about the industry are "quitters". The irony is they have more experience flying 121 than some of those same exact people that are putting them down for being "quitters". Kinda funny for someone to call someone else a quitter, especially since many of the same people haven't even spent a day in their lives flying for an airline. Nothing like newbies dissing the veteran's...
#92
Rnav-You nailed it bro-I could have definately flown a month or two with ya.
Hey DE-do you Golf at all?
Well, some of the other docs I work with try to get me to go golfing with them every week-trouble is-I can hit a golf ball, but there's no telling where it will go.
But you wont see me on a golfers forum trying to tell Tiger Woods how he should be hitting.
Get it?
Hey DE-do you Golf at all?
Well, some of the other docs I work with try to get me to go golfing with them every week-trouble is-I can hit a golf ball, but there's no telling where it will go.
But you wont see me on a golfers forum trying to tell Tiger Woods how he should be hitting.
Get it?
#94
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Sorry - I'm still confused; and I'm being serious here.........
I have always considered a "professional pilot" to be someone who gets PAID to fly.
It could be what I used to know as an AIRLINE pilot (now I know the term Part 121) or a Cargo Pilot (you know - FedEx, DHL, or UPS; just learning about most of those other companies) or Charter operations like World or ATA.
Then I put the Corporate pilots in that category and the guys that flew tourists around the Grand Cayon for example.
All pilots who day in and day out got paid for flying.
Now.....I understand the "attitude" as you put it about flying right eveni f you are just out for a recreational flight along the gulf coast (btw - I miss that type of flying) and if I were tlaking about someone's preparation and the way he handled himself I might use the word "professional" but I guess it would be meant in a different way - from the guy that gets paid.
So...again...what is professional? I would say that you and Sky *were* professional pilots - you got out of the business and into something else (medical for you right and real estate for Sky?) So if someone asked you at a party what you did for a living - I wouldn't expect you to say "I'm a professional pilot." If someone asked you what you had done prior I would expect you to say "I was an airline pilot".
In your opinion - - am I a professional pilot?
USMCFLYR
I have always considered a "professional pilot" to be someone who gets PAID to fly.
It could be what I used to know as an AIRLINE pilot (now I know the term Part 121) or a Cargo Pilot (you know - FedEx, DHL, or UPS; just learning about most of those other companies) or Charter operations like World or ATA.
Then I put the Corporate pilots in that category and the guys that flew tourists around the Grand Cayon for example.
All pilots who day in and day out got paid for flying.
Now.....I understand the "attitude" as you put it about flying right eveni f you are just out for a recreational flight along the gulf coast (btw - I miss that type of flying) and if I were tlaking about someone's preparation and the way he handled himself I might use the word "professional" but I guess it would be meant in a different way - from the guy that gets paid.
So...again...what is professional? I would say that you and Sky *were* professional pilots - you got out of the business and into something else (medical for you right and real estate for Sky?) So if someone asked you at a party what you did for a living - I wouldn't expect you to say "I'm a professional pilot." If someone asked you what you had done prior I would expect you to say "I was an airline pilot".
In your opinion - - am I a professional pilot?
USMCFLYR
#95
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Whats the big deal with the word "professional pilot"? If your getting paid to fly your a professional. Looking, acting and getting paid like one is another story...
#96
[quote=USMCFLYR;464579]
Sorry - I'm still confused; and I'm being serious here.........
I have always considered a "professional pilot" to be someone who gets PAID to fly.
It could be what I used to know as an AIRLINE pilot (now I know the term Part 121) or a Cargo Pilot (you know - FedEx, DHL, or UPS; just learning about most of those other companies) or Charter operations like World or ATA.
Then I put the Corporate pilots in that category and the guys that flew tourists around the Grand Cayon for example.
All pilots who day in and day out got paid for flying.
Now.....I understand the "attitude" as you put it about flying right eveni f you are just out for a recreational flight along the gulf coast (btw - I miss that type of flying) and if I were tlaking about someone's preparation and the way he handled himself I might use the word "professional" but I guess it would be meant in a different way - from the guy that gets paid.
So...again...what is professional? I would say that you and Sky *were* professional pilots - you got out of the business and into something else (medical for you right and real estate for Sky?) So if someone asked you at a party what you did for a living - I wouldn't expect you to say "I'm a professional pilot." If someone asked you what you had done prior I would expect you to say "I was an airline pilot".
In your opinion - - am I a professional pilot?
USMCFLYR
I have never flown with you, but I do think you are a professional. I can tell that you care about doing what you do well, as do I, and are passionate about it, as I am. That's why there are such spirited and in-depth exchanges here. But you have grasped the core of why people like Sky and myself are here.
It's true that I am a Physician now, but i'm a pilot too, and I always will be. A few years back, if someone at a party had asked me what i did for a "living", I prob would have had to excuse myself from the room, or tell a lie-because my flying "job" didn't really provide me and my family with a "living". Always had to do something on the side for money to pay bills.
My present "job" provides me and my family with a great living.
But my question to you is-do you think people who fly regional equipment are paid to do it?
I personally don't think they are "paid" to do what they do. They recieve money, but far from being "paid". Far from not having to supplement their income with spouses or 1-2 other jobs.
Anyway, I'd have enjoyed flying a month or 2 with you also.
Sorry - I'm still confused; and I'm being serious here.........
I have always considered a "professional pilot" to be someone who gets PAID to fly.
It could be what I used to know as an AIRLINE pilot (now I know the term Part 121) or a Cargo Pilot (you know - FedEx, DHL, or UPS; just learning about most of those other companies) or Charter operations like World or ATA.
Then I put the Corporate pilots in that category and the guys that flew tourists around the Grand Cayon for example.
All pilots who day in and day out got paid for flying.
Now.....I understand the "attitude" as you put it about flying right eveni f you are just out for a recreational flight along the gulf coast (btw - I miss that type of flying) and if I were tlaking about someone's preparation and the way he handled himself I might use the word "professional" but I guess it would be meant in a different way - from the guy that gets paid.
So...again...what is professional? I would say that you and Sky *were* professional pilots - you got out of the business and into something else (medical for you right and real estate for Sky?) So if someone asked you at a party what you did for a living - I wouldn't expect you to say "I'm a professional pilot." If someone asked you what you had done prior I would expect you to say "I was an airline pilot".
In your opinion - - am I a professional pilot?
USMCFLYR
I have never flown with you, but I do think you are a professional. I can tell that you care about doing what you do well, as do I, and are passionate about it, as I am. That's why there are such spirited and in-depth exchanges here. But you have grasped the core of why people like Sky and myself are here.
It's true that I am a Physician now, but i'm a pilot too, and I always will be. A few years back, if someone at a party had asked me what i did for a "living", I prob would have had to excuse myself from the room, or tell a lie-because my flying "job" didn't really provide me and my family with a "living". Always had to do something on the side for money to pay bills.
My present "job" provides me and my family with a great living.
But my question to you is-do you think people who fly regional equipment are paid to do it?
I personally don't think they are "paid" to do what they do. They recieve money, but far from being "paid". Far from not having to supplement their income with spouses or 1-2 other jobs.
Anyway, I'd have enjoyed flying a month or 2 with you also.
#97
Brainwashing (also known as thought reform or as re-education) consists of any effort aimed at instilling certain attitudes and beliefs in a person — beliefs sometimes unwelcome or in conflict with the person's prior beliefs and knowledge, in order to affect that individual's value system and subsequent thought-patterns and behaviors.
Someone is trying to uphold the impression that he is now some sort of jetsetting hollywood doctor with hundreds of real friends and a movie like lifestyle full of parties, women and fun, maybe even with a chauffeur! He's declared himself popular, wanted, needed and has sacrificed himself to educate weak people. The dispensed advise has as much value as was paid for it. All that from a desk he occupies for several hours a day looking for weak minded souls on an aviation forum, who are in trouble for and upset about their prior career choices. Eventually he will declare himself god, and get a group of people to commit suicide
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaa!
HYUNDAI - Think about it!
#98
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Someone is trying to uphold the impression that he is now some sort of jetsetting hollywood doctor with hundreds of real friends and a movie like lifestyle full of parties, women and fun, maybe even with a chauffeur!
Ahhhh.....Im having a hard time seeing it this way......but each to their own.
Someone is trying to uphold the impression that he is now some sort of jetsetting hollywood doctor with hundreds of real friends and a movie like lifestyle full of parties, women and fun, maybe even with a chauffeur! He's declared himself popular, wanted, needed and has sacrificed himself to educate weak people. The dispensed advise has as much value as was paid for it. All that from a desk he occupies for several hours a day looking for weak minded souls on an aviation forum, who are in trouble for and upset about their prior career choices. Eventually he will declare himself god, and get a group of people to commit suicide
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaa!
HYUNDAI - Think about it!

Aaaaannnnnnddd??? Since his advice is worthless....where is your priceless advice?
#99
[quote=TonyMontana;464583]
I have never flown with you, but I do think you are a professional. I can tell that you care about doing what you do well, as do I, and are passionate about it, as I am. That's why there are such spirited and in-depth exchanges here. But you have grasped the core of why people like Sky and myself are here.
It's true that I am a Physician now, but i'm a pilot too, and I always will be. A few years back, if someone at a party had asked me what i did for a "living", I prob would have had to excuse myself from the room, or tell a lie-because my flying "job" didn't really provide me and my family with a "living". Always had to do something on the side for money to pay bills.
My present "job" provides me and my family with a great living.
But my question to you is-do you think people who fly regional equipment are paid to do it?
I personally don't think they are "paid" to do what they do. They recieve money, but far from being "paid". Far from not having to supplement their income with spouses or 1-2 other jobs.
Anyway, I'd have enjoyed flying a month or 2 with you also.
I am a professional. I'm a professional military officer. That is what I get paid for - being a Marine - not flying. Unfortunately - I've put that one to the test with too many NON-flying tours in my career and dang nabit - they still pay me!
The airplane just happens to be my weapon system. I've said it before that in the future I hope to join the ranks of "professional" pilots and get paid - hopefully at a fair price, but then you and Sky will insist that I will die a horrible death first becaus I can not possibly live on that low of a pay!
I'd love to be able to make the wages of old; doesn't look like that is going to happen anytime soon. But I hope that I am happy in my future hopeful career and I'm sure htat I won't starve, and if at a later time I decide to move onto something else then I'll look back at the "old" days and thank my lucky stars that I had the opportunity to do what I did for a little while. Heck - maybe someday I'll even be able to own a small share of a plane for puttn' aound on a sunny afternoon!
Sorry - overall your response is above my head. You ask me if regional pilots are getting paid. In my two cell brain - if they receive money in their checking account every two weeks (or however often it is) then yes - I consdier them paid - therefore "professional" pilots. It is another story whether they are fairly compensated.
USMCFLYR
I have never flown with you, but I do think you are a professional. I can tell that you care about doing what you do well, as do I, and are passionate about it, as I am. That's why there are such spirited and in-depth exchanges here. But you have grasped the core of why people like Sky and myself are here.
It's true that I am a Physician now, but i'm a pilot too, and I always will be. A few years back, if someone at a party had asked me what i did for a "living", I prob would have had to excuse myself from the room, or tell a lie-because my flying "job" didn't really provide me and my family with a "living". Always had to do something on the side for money to pay bills.
My present "job" provides me and my family with a great living.
But my question to you is-do you think people who fly regional equipment are paid to do it?
I personally don't think they are "paid" to do what they do. They recieve money, but far from being "paid". Far from not having to supplement their income with spouses or 1-2 other jobs.
Anyway, I'd have enjoyed flying a month or 2 with you also.
The airplane just happens to be my weapon system. I've said it before that in the future I hope to join the ranks of "professional" pilots and get paid - hopefully at a fair price, but then you and Sky will insist that I will die a horrible death first becaus I can not possibly live on that low of a pay!
I'd love to be able to make the wages of old; doesn't look like that is going to happen anytime soon. But I hope that I am happy in my future hopeful career and I'm sure htat I won't starve, and if at a later time I decide to move onto something else then I'll look back at the "old" days and thank my lucky stars that I had the opportunity to do what I did for a little while. Heck - maybe someday I'll even be able to own a small share of a plane for puttn' aound on a sunny afternoon!Sorry - overall your response is above my head. You ask me if regional pilots are getting paid. In my two cell brain - if they receive money in their checking account every two weeks (or however often it is) then yes - I consdier them paid - therefore "professional" pilots. It is another story whether they are fairly compensated.
USMCFLYR
#100
USMCFLYR,
Don't be confused. You've got it straight.
Some people feel like they're entitled to be International wide-body Captains at Age 40, and the proliferation of baby jets that hire 200-hour wonders feeds that myth. THAT is not reality.
It takes persistance -- sticktuitiveness -- that means guttin' it out when times are hard the same as enjoying the benefits when times are good. There have been furloughs and airline failures in the past, and there will be the same in the future. Some people hung in there and plucked the grapes off the vine. Others didn't reach the grapes, and now all they can do is whine.
They made their choices, but they can't make yours. I think you've got the character and desire to make it -- Semper Fi.
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Don't be confused. You've got it straight.
Some people feel like they're entitled to be International wide-body Captains at Age 40, and the proliferation of baby jets that hire 200-hour wonders feeds that myth. THAT is not reality.
It takes persistance -- sticktuitiveness -- that means guttin' it out when times are hard the same as enjoying the benefits when times are good. There have been furloughs and airline failures in the past, and there will be the same in the future. Some people hung in there and plucked the grapes off the vine. Others didn't reach the grapes, and now all they can do is whine.
They made their choices, but they can't make yours. I think you've got the character and desire to make it -- Semper Fi.
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