Still didn't answer the question -- I have a suspicion why.


Do you believe, Tony, that you put in enough years and hard work that you should have been a 777 captain before you quit?

I've got no problem with a guy that decides to change careers, and admire your work to get where you are. What I don't understand is this attitude that you exude that it was unfair that you couldn't have been a 777 captain for all you put into the profession.

YOU said that your hard work didn't get you to 777 captain. YOU brought it up. Now, I'm asking you, did you really expect to be a 777 captain for the effort you made?





(Ski Patrol, Sorry, I was shooting for medium spaces, not huge ones. It's just a little magic trick. )


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You'll have to ask Dr. Montana. He's the guy that seems to think he was entitled to it.




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[quote=TonyC;465639]You'll have to ask Dr. Montana. He's the guy that seems to think he was entitled to it.
Well thats the problem right there_-----ENTITLEMENT !
One has to work at getting captaincy and put ones time in ,in order to get to that position.
Just could,nt resist on this one .
BTW how long does someone expect to be sitting right before moving left?

 

I doubt you're qualified to lecture a physician about working and putting time in.

 

ditto. BTW, even if you became a 777 captain, you'd be furloughed or displaced back to the right seat, or different airframe before you could blink. Besides, how is making 777 captain "making it?" How's about a gig that keeps you home at night? That my friend is making it!

 

I have said that I hoped everyone makes it to 777 capt, and that my hard work didn't get me there. My hard work didn't get me to mainline, might have been a better choice of words. I personally know quite a few people who got to a mainline carrier with CONSIDERABLY less quals that I have. One was a college friend who got on with American with "0" turbine p.i.c., -and who's dad was a line Capt there.

I am curious, however, as to why you and others here are so threatened by my message, and my offer of help and qadvice to those who are thinking about going in a different direction with their lives.

I do think that success in the airline arena is largely based upon luck and timing, on relations, and chance meetings, and that to me IS unfair. My new occupation, on the other hand, rewarded my hard work. For my family and me, that was the best course of action.

 

[quote=DYNASTY HVY;465650]
I did endure a 4 year degree and many years of hard work and 11,000 plus hours, while at the same time expecting to make a living for my family and myself. In the end, however, it just didn't come to pass. I guess mabee your argument will fly based upon that-I did think I was "entitled" to a living-and now I have one.

Guys, don't get hung up on the trip7 thing, it is one of my favorite planes, and one that I would love to have had a chance to fly. I would have loved to have flowed through to mainline like our signed contract, and my seniority number allowed for. But that WASN'T going to happen, and my family deserved better-now they have it. I'd like for anyone that wants the same to have the same.

That's why i'm here.

btw-welcome to the discussion Dynasty.

 

Thanks Iroc, and welcome aboard.

 

I thought I would add my .02. Doctors arent paid as well as they used to be. With the advent of HMO's and PPO's, Doctors no longer have the luxury of charging patients whatever they want for a visit. For most doctors coming out of Med school, it is more like a meat shop where they have to meet a quota of patients each day. Dont get me wrong, being a doctor is a great job, however you work a ton of hours in General Medicine. Unless you are a surgeon, you can look at capping out around 130k. I 100% agree that becoming a pilot is no guarrantee that you will ever be a CA for a 777, so what, as far as I am concerned if I can become a CA at a regional and make 85k with 15 days off a month I have achieved my objective. Just to give you a real life example, my sister is a Doctor at Northwestern Memorial in Chicago, IL. She is a peditrician, and is required to see at least 65 patients a day. She works 12 hour days most of the time, and makes 90k a year. She just got out of Med school, and enjoys what she does. Compare that to my friend who works for Skywest as a 4 year Captain. He makes 85k a year, and has averaged 16 days off a month for the past 6 months. 5k less for almost half the work. I think so many people on here bash the career because for some reason b/c they think they are entitled to make a king's ransom once they start flying passengers. Just to let you know, when I graduated college and worked in the business world, my salary was 32k. Being a pilot isnt that bad, and the grass isnt always greener.

 

"5k less for almost half the work."

I think the people who will argue with you are the ones that put a high value on being home every night and a find the travel aspect of flying to be unacceptable. I mean, look at Learflyer's post. If one "has it made" being home every night vs being a 777 Capt, then I'd say that speaks volumes about ones suitability to be a pilot over the long term. This job isn't for everybody.

"when I graduated college and worked in the business world, my salary was 32k. Being a pilot isnt that bad, and the grass isnt always greener."

Yeah, I've always thought the grass might not be so green, so to speak. Not many want to speak to that. What did you do in the business world and could you see it as a viable option to flying?