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Old 09-02-2023, 03:05 PM
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Who is selling used A220s?
Seriously. I was wondering that too. Also, how many orders and options do you guys have now and how long of a delivery schedule? I assume all -300s?
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Old 09-02-2023, 03:21 PM
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Who is selling used A220s?
A middle eastern airline.

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Seriously. I was wondering that too. Also, how many orders and options do you guys have now and how long of a delivery schedule? I assume all -300s?
80 firm, 40 options. We are taking #16 this weekend. The delivery schedule is supposed to run into/through 2028. We are already about 7 aircraft short because Airbus is having manufacturing trouble.
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Old 09-02-2023, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bonvoyage View Post
A middle eastern airline.



80 firm, 40 options. We are taking #16 this weekend. The delivery schedule is supposed to run into/through 2028. We are already about 7 aircraft short because Airbus is having manufacturing trouble.
Gotcha. Thanks. Wish you guys well 👍
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Old 09-02-2023, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bonvoyage View Post
A middle eastern airline.



80 firm, 40 options. We are taking #16 this weekend. The delivery schedule is supposed to run into/through 2028. We are already about 7 aircraft short because Airbus is having manufacturing trouble.
The only middle eastern airlines I see on the A220 list is Egypt Air. They are in the process of adding to their fleet. I donít see anyone else.
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Old 09-02-2023, 06:29 PM
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The only middle eastern airlines I see on the A220 list is Egypt Air. They are in the process of adding to their fleet. I donít see anyone else.
This is supposedly where they are coming from. Who really knows what to believe...
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Old 09-02-2023, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by bonvoyage View Post
we were supposed to be profitable by Q4. That could still happen. They are working a deal on getting 6 A220s from the used market. That will close the gap on our lack of airframes due to Airbus not delivering on time. Things are going good enough. I get a laugh when other pilotsí come over to tell us we are going out of business. Just like everyone said AA was going bankrupt for the last 5 years. We actually have a lot of very qualified, very experienced management in place, whether we like them or not, and they do know how to manage an airline. We were hit with unexpected delays from the FAA and Airbus all at once that definitely werenít planned for, but weíre on the backside of that.

itís always fun to get out of your own reality and go tell pilotsí at other airlines how bad they have it and what financial hardships their company is in, I guess.
Welcome to the airlines where youíre always on the front side of the next issue. Cash is king.
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Old 09-03-2023, 07:05 AM
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Does anyone know how far out class dates are?
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Old 09-03-2023, 09:32 AM
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Does anyone know how far out class dates are?
Probably 1-2 months. Expect the A220
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Old 09-04-2023, 01:07 PM
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Who is selling used A220s?
They probably aren't selling. "Said" airline probably isn't using them effectively (mx problems, etc). Meanwhile, another airline has use for them (Breeze). Lessor takes them back, takes Breeze Ejets on trade and gives said 220s to Breeze.
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Old 09-04-2023, 11:46 PM
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