End of year salary survey
#21
Mostly year 5 (few months of year 4) AA 737 FO:
Gross (everything but 401k): $207,200
Company’s 401k DC: $32,400
No premium and I take my vacation, but I did work 171 days for the year. That’s a little more than 14 per month. I favor high value trips, so while 14 days per month isn’t bad, it’s a lot of flying while out on the road - almost 800 block hours.
Gross (everything but 401k): $207,200
Company’s 401k DC: $32,400
No premium and I take my vacation, but I did work 171 days for the year. That’s a little more than 14 per month. I favor high value trips, so while 14 days per month isn’t bad, it’s a lot of flying while out on the road - almost 800 block hours.
#26
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 2,857
Swa yr 3 FO
$179k
$6400 of that is per diem, $2800 is cash from profit sharing spillover
$25k to the 401k - B fund
$14.5k profit sharing (from 2017)
~ total for 2018 - $218,500
Around 780 hrs flown. Pick up a couple day trips or a 2 day a month. Avg 15 or so off a month.
$179k
$6400 of that is per diem, $2800 is cash from profit sharing spillover
$25k to the 401k - B fund
$14.5k profit sharing (from 2017)
~ total for 2018 - $218,500
Around 780 hrs flown. Pick up a couple day trips or a 2 day a month. Avg 15 or so off a month.
#27
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,467
I personally find this thread enlightening every year and use to as a sort of measuring stick for how everyone stacks up in the industry, certainly not to make myself feel better. It always amazes me how different people with different bidding strategies and flying habits at different places are doing pay wise. You always hear this and that or read things but until people lay it out here, it is hard to add context.
#28
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 3,467
For me:
SWA year 4/5 FO commuter so rarely sit reserve.
Kid in private college and I am writing checks to pay for tuition so I work more than that average pilot but am not a varsity level “player”. Average 135tfp per month.
This year has seen a big manning swing in the right seat (hopefully temporary) so a plentiful inventory of open time used to mean I could manipulate my schedule and work 14-15 days and end up in the 130-140 tfp range, but that has changed and since summer there has been zero premium open time.
Total gross on paystub - $218,114
Perdiem - $7,173
Company 401k - $30,972
Profit sharing - $23,518 (2017 contribution paid this year)
Block - used to hover around 700-750 but since October has been above 800.
Days worked - depends on the month. Summer 14-16 days, now around 16-18 days to make up for lack of quality open time.
SWA year 4/5 FO commuter so rarely sit reserve.
Kid in private college and I am writing checks to pay for tuition so I work more than that average pilot but am not a varsity level “player”. Average 135tfp per month.
This year has seen a big manning swing in the right seat (hopefully temporary) so a plentiful inventory of open time used to mean I could manipulate my schedule and work 14-15 days and end up in the 130-140 tfp range, but that has changed and since summer there has been zero premium open time.
Total gross on paystub - $218,114
Perdiem - $7,173
Company 401k - $30,972
Profit sharing - $23,518 (2017 contribution paid this year)
Block - used to hover around 700-750 but since October has been above 800.
Days worked - depends on the month. Summer 14-16 days, now around 16-18 days to make up for lack of quality open time.
#30
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Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 459
12 year UAL guy
Jan through early June a 777FO
Late June mid July training
Late July through Dec 320CA
Total gross including per diem and profit sharing in addition to the regular earnings: $313,300
B-Plan: $46,000
Total $359,300 more or less.
Block for the year: 675hrs
Don't know the days off. Training jacked that up anyway. 2019 will be a better judge.
On paper looking only at total earnings, I made five grand less this year by upgrading... whoops... So that's why I'm more senior as a 320CA than a 777FO
In actuality, it has a lot to do with the $14k less profit sharing between 2017 and 2018 along with not working hard..er playing the game.. on the 777 the first half of the year like I did the year prior. The delta between the two seats should be considerably better in 2019.
As it stands my regular earnings for 2018 is $285,600 for 1125hrs of pay (with a sizable portion of the 2018 hrs being on the lower 777FO pay rate) vs $279,500 for 1234hrs of pay in 2017.
Jan through early June a 777FO
Late June mid July training
Late July through Dec 320CA
Total gross including per diem and profit sharing in addition to the regular earnings: $313,300
B-Plan: $46,000
Total $359,300 more or less.
Block for the year: 675hrs
Don't know the days off. Training jacked that up anyway. 2019 will be a better judge.
On paper looking only at total earnings, I made five grand less this year by upgrading... whoops... So that's why I'm more senior as a 320CA than a 777FO
In actuality, it has a lot to do with the $14k less profit sharing between 2017 and 2018 along with not working hard..er playing the game.. on the 777 the first half of the year like I did the year prior. The delta between the two seats should be considerably better in 2019.
As it stands my regular earnings for 2018 is $285,600 for 1125hrs of pay (with a sizable portion of the 2018 hrs being on the lower 777FO pay rate) vs $279,500 for 1234hrs of pay in 2017.
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