End of year salary survey
#51
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It is a **** measuring context. AA narrowbody FO guy says he made 204k. And then writes he flew 18 days a month (so 12 off) and averaged 90 hrs. Sorry, but how is that even remotely reflective of the average line holder? And more importantly, how does that help any current 40 yr old guy on the outside looking in? News flash, some pilots over work themselves and sellout vacation/personal time to pad their pockets more.
Someone decided to start this thread on Christmas Day, because when you wake up on the 25th of December, the first thought is “I wonder what all pilots made this year.”
Someone decided to start this thread on Christmas Day, because when you wake up on the 25th of December, the first thought is “I wonder what all pilots made this year.”
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#52
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It is a **** measuring context. AA narrowbody FO guy says he made 204k. And then writes he flew 18 days a month (so 12 off) and averaged 90 hrs. Sorry, but how is that even remotely reflective of the average line holder? And more importantly, how does that help any current 40 yr old guy on the outside looking in? News flash, some pilots over work themselves and sellout vacation/personal time to pad their pockets more.
Someone decided to start this thread on Christmas Day, because when you wake up on the 25th of December, the first thought is “I wonder what all pilots made this year.”
Someone decided to start this thread on Christmas Day, because when you wake up on the 25th of December, the first thought is “I wonder what all pilots made this year.”
No. It’s a good comparison.
#53
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Then some also include their per diem and 401K DC contributions in with their total compensation, which I find a little cringeworthy. Might as well include your monthly airport parking reimbursement if we're gonna add tax exempt items like per diem. Could be just me though.
#54
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Alaska 2nd year FO
$145.3k gross
$20k employer 401k contribution
One paycheck to go as well as performance based pay (our cheaper version of profit sharing)
I don’t have my block hours handy but average days off was about 14, and I didn’t pick up any premium. (Not out of principle, we just don’t have much premium flying and I live 2 hours from the airport)
$145.3k gross
$20k employer 401k contribution
One paycheck to go as well as performance based pay (our cheaper version of profit sharing)
I don’t have my block hours handy but average days off was about 14, and I didn’t pick up any premium. (Not out of principle, we just don’t have much premium flying and I live 2 hours from the airport)
#55
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SWA 11 year lazy FO
Worked 109 days after vacation and a couple of sick calls
About 9 days a month on average
Flew 654 hours
185K (after removing PS overage from 2017)
Not counting per diem because that's crazy
26K company 401k contribution
18.5K profit sharing (guess based on 10%)
229.5K total
I'm a real underachiever
Worked 109 days after vacation and a couple of sick calls
About 9 days a month on average
Flew 654 hours
185K (after removing PS overage from 2017)
Not counting per diem because that's crazy
26K company 401k contribution
18.5K profit sharing (guess based on 10%)
229.5K total
I'm a real underachiever
#56
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Then some also include their per diem and 401K DC contributions in with their total compensation, which I find a little cringeworthy. Might as well include your monthly airport parking reimbursement if we're gonna add tax exempt items like per diem. Could be just me though.
I see no problem in that as long as it’s broken down. $45,000 thrown into a B fund isn’t exactly chump change and should be mentioned when talking compensation. Per diem and 401k matches while not as much as a percentage in total comp still have a monetary value.
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