Delta or United
03-29-2022, 03:17 PM
#202
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Originally Posted by KnightNight
Commuting from Florida to Atlanta is hell, has been for decades. Do your research on that before you make a choice based on that. AA has a Miami base, is that an option?
03-29-2022, 03:18 PM
#203
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
Flowing is an option and the prospects of the bonus and MIA are attractive. I don’t want to give up even a month of seniority though. I think the coming recession will at best slow things quite a bit for a couple years and at worst we *might* see furloughs. Delta also seems to have far superior reserve rules than United. And I also think there is value in getting on a mainline seniority list and getting 1,000+ pilots junior to you as fast as possible *if* furloughs were to happen.
03-29-2022, 03:48 PM
#204
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
Flowing is an option and the prospects of the bonus and MIA are attractive. I don’t want to give up even a month of seniority though. I think the coming recession will at best slow things quite a bit for a couple years and at worst we *might* see furloughs. Delta also seems to have far superior reserve rules than United. And I also think there is value in getting on a mainline seniority list and getting 1,000+ pilots junior to you as fast as possible *if* furloughs were to happen.
Delta does have pretty decent reserve rules. I’ve even intentionally bid reserve as a commuter and it’s just fine. Positive space commuting is nice too, but of course is not guaranteed to stay. The JS booking system is pretty good though; 5 days prior to your trip you can book the JS beginning at noon. Once you’ve booked it the JS is yours, even if a 30 year guy shows up (only rare exceptions are MEL’d JS, line check, FAA, etc). For junior people this is a markedly better system than what AA has, from what I understand. You mentioned your North Florida location offers 10-12 flights a day to ATL. I can only assume you’re talking about JAX, which does indeed have plenty of commuters, but I haven’t heard that it’s an awful commute or anything. Also far more daily flights from there to ATL v CLT/MIA/IAD/EWR, which frankly makes a huge difference in commuter QOL. Best of luck in your decision!
03-29-2022, 05:25 PM
#206
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Originally Posted by DeadStick
Congrats on having your pick of the Big 3. Nice work! It seems to me these days the UA folks are the least ****ed off, but the commute to IAD/EWR doesn’t sound great.
The JS booking system is pretty good though; 5 days prior to your trip you can book the JS beginning at noon. Once you’ve booked it the JS is yours, even if a 30 year guy shows up (only rare exceptions are MEL’d JS, line check, FAA, etc). For junior people this is a markedly better system than what AA has, from what I understand.
The JS booking system is pretty good though; 5 days prior to your trip you can book the JS beginning at noon. Once you’ve booked it the JS is yours, even if a 30 year guy shows up (only rare exceptions are MEL’d JS, line check, FAA, etc). For junior people this is a markedly better system than what AA has, from what I understand.
03-29-2022, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by AllYourBaseAreB
Contact AA recruiting and tell them about your job offers and see if you can get an interview ASAP. Supposedly it works… and you keep your bonus
03-29-2022, 08:00 PM
#209
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
Here’s my scenario:
-Flow to AA in less than 6 months. If I flow I’ll get about $80K in bonuses plus not have to pay back $30K in retention bonus.
-CJOs with UAL and DAL.
-I live in north Florida and moving isn’t an option. United seems the most appealing to me based on variation of flying, however EWR and IAD are the only commutable bases. And they aren’t optimal from a commuter’s standpoint. But United has a ton of retirements and substantial growth planned.
-Delta has the ATL base and like 10-12 flights /day with me with early flights and late flights back home. Super commutable. Far less retirements though and it seems like the hiring wave at Delta has already sort of happened.
WWYD
-Flow to AA in less than 6 months. If I flow I’ll get about $80K in bonuses plus not have to pay back $30K in retention bonus.
-CJOs with UAL and DAL.
-I live in north Florida and moving isn’t an option. United seems the most appealing to me based on variation of flying, however EWR and IAD are the only commutable bases. And they aren’t optimal from a commuter’s standpoint. But United has a ton of retirements and substantial growth planned.
-Delta has the ATL base and like 10-12 flights /day with me with early flights and late flights back home. Super commutable. Far less retirements though and it seems like the hiring wave at Delta has already sort of happened.
WWYD
Nothing but respect for you, email your cjo to AA if you absolutely have to go that route, it does indeed work. But god please think about it
good luck!
03-30-2022, 07:00 AM
#210
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Originally Posted by OOfff
what about delta makes OP more likely to make more over a career?
Originally Posted by KirillTheThrill
Yeah don’t expect a response from margarita boy. He just makes claims so everyone thinks he actually has a clue.
When someone eventually gives a reasonable response on how one could bring home more cash at DL that’s when he’ll show up acting like he was totally aware the entire time.
The pay is relatively the same when you compare both, I’d say whatever airline has a base that allows you to drive to work (picking up overtime, less costs for commuting, no crashpad, etc)
United has a few domicile’s with less income tax. Colorado (DEN) for example is 5% flat tax, and has one of the lowest property tax rates in the country (.50%). Texas (IAH) has no income tax.
When someone eventually gives a reasonable response on how one could bring home more cash at DL that’s when he’ll show up acting like he was totally aware the entire time.
The pay is relatively the same when you compare both, I’d say whatever airline has a base that allows you to drive to work (picking up overtime, less costs for commuting, no crashpad, etc)
United has a few domicile’s with less income tax. Colorado (DEN) for example is 5% flat tax, and has one of the lowest property tax rates in the country (.50%). Texas (IAH) has no income tax.
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