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Downfall the case against Boeing
Netflix documentary- Downfall
Sad to see what’s become of Boeing. https://www.latimes.com/entertainmen...eing?_amp=true |
I thought it was a good production, that show. I left my "pro-Boeing" bias at the door.
The fact that bean counters started to influence things versus the engineers, and ruined a formerly great company, is widely known. The move to Chicago did not help. |
Well, they sure left a few key details out.
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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer
(Post 3375620)
Well, they sure left a few key details out.
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Originally Posted by avi8orco
(Post 3375631)
Didn’t the AOA fail on the previous flight or something of that nature? And it was pencil whipped and put back into service on one of those flights?
on the last second flight yes. It was replaced with a counterfeit part and pencil whipped. Failed when crew took off. They disable the stick shaker and flew from Bali to Jakarta with the stab cutout switched off. Then only wrote up the unreliable airspeed, not the AOA issue. Plane crashed the next morning. they also forgot to mention the Ethiopian crew turn the stab trim switches back on to try and engage the autopilot. they also forgot to mention the FAA retained certification for MCAS. They did now about the expanded envelope and that was in the DOJ report. They got the merger stuff right but we’re wrong about the anything about the MAX. MCAS was about certification flights. Stick force per G. It was not to push the nose down like the media loves to say. |
Originally Posted by PNWFlyer
(Post 3375635)
it failed on 3 previous flights. All those crews handled the emergency just fine.
on the last second flight yes. It was replaced with a counterfeit part and pencil whipped. Failed when crew took off. They disable the stick shaker and flew from Bali to Jakarta with the stab cutout switched off. Then only wrote up the unreliable airspeed, not the AOA issue. Plane crashed the next morning. they also forgot to mention the Ethiopian crew turn the stab trim switches back on to try and engage the autopilot. they also forgot to mention the FAA retained certification for MCAS. They did now about the expanded envelope and that was in the DOJ report. They got the merger stuff right but we’re wrong about the anything about the MAX. MCAS was about certification flights. Stick force per G. It was not to push the nose down like the media loves to say. I’d like to have it when I talk the folks who only watch cable news. |
Originally Posted by PNWFlyer
(Post 3375635)
it failed on 3 previous flights. All those crews handled the emergency just fine.
they also forgot to mention the FAA retained certification for MCAS. They did now about the expanded envelope and that was in the DOJ report. |
Anyone seen the Boeing/ 787 documentary from years ago on Al Jazeera America?
It's definitely worth a watch. They go do into how the company went from being run by engineers to bean counters and the shift in focus from quality product to stock price. And it included undercover camera of guys in the S. Carolina factory admiting they had no idea what they were doing while on the assembly line. |
They should have mentioned that Boeing offered a rebate of 1 million per airframe to Southwest if sim training for MAX was required.
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Originally Posted by Hobbit64
(Post 3375705)
I’m not doubting you, but where did you find that information?
I’d like to have it when I talk the folks who only watch cable news. the stuff about the FAA is in the DOJ report and buried in the 2 congressional reports. If you take the time to comb through the hundreds of pages it is there. |
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