Let Experienced Pilots Fly Act (Age 67)
08-30-2023, 07:19 PM
#591
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
It appears that those entering the industry *this* decade should not *have* to fly past 55 if they don't want. If they want to, that's different.
But folks much over 40 did not enjoy the meteoric trajectory you have today. I personally enjoyed about a decade in the right of regional airfcraft and that was back when it didn't pay six figures... on the low end of five figures
But folks much over 40 did not enjoy the meteoric trajectory you have today. I personally enjoyed about a decade in the right of regional airfcraft and that was back when it didn't pay six figures... on the low end of five figures
08-31-2023, 02:11 AM
#592
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Just think if the retirement age was 78 how much Social Security would be helped out. Only 0.9 yrs of payments needed
Just think if the retirement age was 78 how much Social Security would be helped out. Only 0.9 yrs of payments needed
08-31-2023, 04:31 AM
#593
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Originally Posted by OOfff
Eight words: the president doesn’t have line item veto power
08-31-2023, 06:52 AM
#594
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Originally Posted by resa
A picture is worth a thousand words
Just think if the retirement age was 78 how much Social Security would be helped out. Only 0.9 yrs of payments needed
Just think if the retirement age was 78 how much Social Security would be helped out. Only 0.9 yrs of payments needed
Changing retirement age to 80 for Social Security would be more appropriate if you're using current life expectancy and want to match years in retirement when the program was started.
The notion of living a long time in retirement is a relatively recent concept.
08-31-2023, 07:14 AM
#595
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Originally Posted by Andy
Social security was started in 1935. The average life expectancy in 1935 was 59.9 for males and 63.0 for females. https://u.demog.berkeley.edu/~andrew/1918/figure2.html There was no early retirement age at 62; that change took place in 1956 for women and 1961 for men.
Changing retirement age to 80 for Social Security would be more appropriate if you're using current life expectancy and want to match years in retirement when the program was started.
The notion of living a long time in retirement is a relatively recent concept.
Changing retirement age to 80 for Social Security would be more appropriate if you're using current life expectancy and want to match years in retirement when the program was started.
The notion of living a long time in retirement is a relatively recent concept.
08-31-2023, 08:11 AM
#596
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Originally Posted by Andy
Social security was started in 1935. The average life expectancy in 1935 was 59.9 for males and 63.0 for females. https://u.demog.berkeley.edu/~andrew/1918/figure2.html There was no early retirement age at 62; that change took place in 1956 for women and 1961 for men.
Changing retirement age to 80 for Social Security would be more appropriate if you're using current life expectancy and want to match years in retirement when the program was started.
The notion of living a long time in retirement is a relatively recent concept.
Changing retirement age to 80 for Social Security would be more appropriate if you're using current life expectancy and want to match years in retirement when the program was started.
The notion of living a long time in retirement is a relatively recent concept.
08-31-2023, 08:20 AM
#597
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Originally Posted by Andy
Social security was started in 1935. The average life expectancy in 1935 was 59.9 for males and 63.0 for females. https://u.demog.berkeley.edu/~andrew/1918/figure2.html There was no early retirement age at 62; that change took place in 1956 for women and 1961 for men.
Changing retirement age to 80 for Social Security would be more appropriate if you're using current life expectancy and want to match years in retirement when the program was started.
The notion of living a long time in retirement is a relatively recent concept.
Changing retirement age to 80 for Social Security would be more appropriate if you're using current life expectancy and want to match years in retirement when the program was started.
The notion of living a long time in retirement is a relatively recent concept.
08-31-2023, 08:27 AM
#598
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
Does that chart exclude infant mortality? The concept that people in the past used to live much shorter lives is usually rooted in including infant mortality in life expectancy. The data you really want is how long does the average person who survived until adulthood live.
Even in this century infant and youth mortality is a big factor. Plenty of death by crime and misadventure in men under age 40, then it tapers off quite a bit.
For our discussions we should really be looking at what's the life expectancy for upper middle class professionals over age 40, who tend to live healthy and have access to good healthcare.
Those numbers should work for airline pilots under 40 too... they don't participate in much gang violence, and if they do adventure sports they are typically more methodical about it than the average yahoo.
Actually it's the women, who statistically live six years longer than men, who might have an incentive to work longer.
08-31-2023, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Work until you die. Sounds good.
08-31-2023, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Work until you die. Sounds good.
Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
Does that chart exclude infant mortality? The concept that people in the past used to live much shorter lives is usually rooted in including infant mortality in life expectancy. The data you really want is how long does the average person who survived until adulthood live.
Or you can post a link to life expectancy data that starts at adulthood.
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