we are doing this top line number as total comp this year? We gonna do medical reimbursements next?

11 year JB 190 CA
rsv by choice
325 block hours

303k total

260k earnings

~40k DC

I guess some guys are including stock stuff now?

made about 3k off of the ESPP(stock discount) program

5 year JB 320 FO

Line holder live in base

Avg 14 days off a month

770 Block hrs

$324k

Too lazy to come up with the DC number but I guess it’s 16% of what I made.

4YR JB 320 FO

$152K
Line Holder.
254 block

16% of pay into 401k

3 year Omni FO
186k
390 block
33 landings

Employee contributed 100%. The title of my thread says UAL. Reading is a good thing.

Spirit CA
420k including profit sharing and per diem
57 snack boxes consumed
25 free cokes

this thread is meaningless without hard proof

$166/hr 5th year pay. $324k=1951 credit hours/12=162 credit per month

162 credit month against 64 block
16.5 days a month worked=9:48 credit per day.

What am I missing here?

Delta, Year 5 pay.
2 months 7ER (757/767) F/O
10 months 320 Captain

Out sick/disability for 2.5 months. NQAT (non qual awaiting training) 1 month, 1 month in full 320 IQ course.
Vacation (2 weeks) cashed out as they put me in the sims during my vacation. Because why not.
Rolled thunder (RES effective double pay) for April.
0-1 GS a month (Double time trip) May-August, nothing since September. Was out September-Mid November after a dirtbike crash.

$277,221 Flight Pay (sick pays out as this)
$5,900 Per Diem
$1,900 Profit Sharing/Rewards (they did a goofy 1 time $1250 PS this year)
$44,500 401k contribution
$329,521 total income
$77,400 in income tax. Holy balls thats more than I made year 1 here (stuck on training pay a while, plus on mil leave for a bit)

453 hours flown
$727/hr effective flight pay, but if you factor in sims, it's probably closer to 600. I don't track sim hours.

Generally gone from home 11-17 days a month between non commutable trips and short call. I do sit long call reserve at home.

Nice write up! Informative and honest. btw, are paystubs out for our Dec 31st check already, or are you giving it a way for the final paycheck of the year?

AA 2-3 year FO.

146k gross
21k direct contributions
Total 167k

7k spent for a penis enlargement at a famous MIA plastic surgeon, hopefully tax deductible. (Got to better entertain the size queen stews).

You’ll find out in a few years ;)

Thank you for your input. It is greatly appreciated.

Shows what you know, he has 2 dads. Very progressive

Atlas
Year 4
73 CA
270k
Avg 12 days off a month after open time pick ups

Aeroflot
 

Let's all agree to not put your place of work in the subject line. Just put it in the post like a normal person. It confuses too many Boomers.

Aeroflot
 

Lets all agree to stop putting our place of work into the Subject line. Just put it inside the post like a normal person. It confuses too many old timers.

You are very welcome señor. Enjoy the Johnson measuring contest that involves zero factual proof (mine is jaw dropping, but you'll have to take my word for it).

So you’re saying your effective hourly rate is $420 as an FO, care to explain how?

He said he lives in base, so probably trips over 100/credit by mostly flying his line. Then add in a couple VDAs (double pay), getting in after 1am triggering an additional day, missing a Deadhead and getting extended pairing pay, and he’s probably having a good month.

I’m not him but I’m guessing that’s how it goes.

i was finally able to save enough for my reduction this year.

You. Are. Pathetic.
I had a penis enlargement, reduction and graft on my F9 FO salary of 122k.

Go to Mexico. Much cheaper.

Yeah, that’s been pointed out by three other people as well. Reading is a good thing. :)

As for the 401k, if you contributed 100% of it, then it’s not really considered income.

At least one in my defense, thank you.:)

$77,400 in income tax withheld? Is that just income tax or all other taxes combined? Maybe you’ll get a refund.

JB 6th year 320 FO

Gross: 333k
DC: 48.8k
Per Diem: 6.6k

677 block
Live in base and hustle a bit

username checks out

AA 1st year FO.
$91k
DC $14k
block 360hrs

Envoy E175 CA/LCA/FAC
 

20+ years
484k {includes 5k per Diem and bonus $55k]
21k 401k match
96 days worked
No rsv, no weekends, no holiday
5 weeks vacation (15 weeks with dts)
Commuter, work mostly day trips. 4 days on vacation months for dts.
All OT picked picked up at 300%
214 Hr
​​​​​428 Hr OE almost every trip OE
642 Hr OT
856 Hr OT/OE
1070 Hr OT/OE/VAC
Average Daily Rate $5,260

Seems like a really sustainable business model AA is running….

Congratulations!! Management hates to see worker bees making coin like this. But this is how we punch back and recoup on years of mistreatment.

These threads are generally very useful to those looking to get hired, those wondering if it's worth making a lateral move or even answering the question if their contemplated move is indeed a lateral move, a step up or a step down, whether it's worth commuting or not, the list goes on and on. The last, but not least is highlighting the importance of soft money in our contracts. Personally, I'd really like to see junior captains from United and Delta post their numbers, as well as actual numbers from the regionals this year.

Can we please be respectful, post factual information and take trolling and childish posts some place else? Also, MODS, could you moderate this thread like you did last year?

Additionally, what may be helpful is separating W-2 wages from your B-plan/401k/per diem monies. Here's one of the suggested formats, but accurate info is always appreciated:

Airline
Fleet (if applicable)
Payscale year
W-2 wage
Retirement/Bonus
Per Diem
Block hours flown
Days worked
Commuter status

I will post my numbers tomorrow when we get our last paystub for 2022.

SWA guys look like Usain Bolt ready to explode out of the blocks and report earnings.

B6 190 CA 9yr Pay

233k pay (includes 6k grievance settlement)
6k perdiem
37k 401k company contribution
276k total
584 block hours

Pretty standard block for me but higher average credit than usual. I also burned more than 200 hours of vacation and PTO on family health issues. Nice to have the option.

Yes. It confuses the old timers.

Says the guy who can’t figure out how to not double post.

Attachment 7265

Sharing this, I consolidated 2021's data into one spreadsheet which I found useful while wading through last year's thread.

Disclaimer: This data isn't guaranteed to be accurate and obviously only as good as the person reporting it, and there were likely a handful of inconsistencies open to interpretation. Did my best to get a "close enough" comparison although there are several factors not captured here. Sorted by $/block and included relevant notes from the poster.

https://i.imgur.com/YPisICH.png

12+ year B6 CA/LCP

$365,933.83 Gross
$50,000 (16% contribution)
———-
$406,000 rounded.

483.26 block hours with 3 days left of flying for the year

Federal Income Tax
Medicaid/Social Security Tax
Virginia Income tax
New York FMLA tax (nyc based)

Sudan Airways
 

ohh wow, you got me there old timer. It was not a double post. The first post was rejected awaiting moderator review because I assume I used the offensive B-word. My posts awaiting review never gets posted, so I just changed the B-Word to old timers and it went trough right away. Guess what, the "offensive" post got approved and was posted the next day. By the time I noticed it I was unable to delete it. I guess there is a first time for everything.

UAL
757/767FO 7th Year
Total: 420k
W-2: 340k
UAL DC (16%): 54.5k
3 week Vaca invol forfeit paid to 401k(fleet change): 13.5k
Bonus TBD
Per Diem: 12k
Block hours flown: approx 750 (about 30-40% of that in the cabin/bunk on rest break during single/double augmented trips). Prob an outlier year w/ a lot of premium in '22 and bought trips for training.
Days "worked": 18/mo. (Tough comparison here as I live 30 mins from base, depart often late evening where i had my departure day with the family, return by mid afternoon and sometimes have multi-day European layovers...working nowhere close to as hard as my NB days)

Southwest
I like to “hustle” a bit, that’s for BIGRIG
12 year Captain (15 years) 245.64/TFP
Domicile seniority 75% (25% off bottom)
Reserve by choice most months
570.5 total compensation
530 (including 30.5 NEC overage above IRS limit and 19.5 2021 profit sharing paid as cash and 7.7 per diem)
40.5 NEC (15%)
778 block hours
1924.5 Trips for Pay (TFP) 160.38/month
166 fly days plus 39 days unused on reserve 3.25/month
205 “work” days
92 nights away from home
Days Off 13.3/month avg
Drive to work 40 minutes
Calculations 1 Dec 2021 to 30 Nov 2022 since December pays in January

Outlier year of course. Juiced by double time MOU in January and February and lots of time and a half open time

-AA
-737 FO New Guy (first trip was NYE 2021)
-11.25 months year one pay, .75 months year two
-$97k Total Compensation (3 months of 16% DC)
-895.54 Paid Credit Hours
-1609.80 hours TAFB
-377.16 block hours
-58 nights away
-Short Call Reserve by choice