F9 5/6 year FO (one month captain pay)

186k
27k DC
per diem:not income
213k total.

16-18 days off
450 block which would be 50-70 hours higher but 1 month was in the school house.

JAN-MARCH

Envoy:
Comp- $10k
401k- $0k
Block- 115

APR-DEC

FDX:
Comp- $40k
401k- $4k
Block- 101

JAN-DEC

USAFR:
Comp- $33k
401k- $0
Block- 40

TOTAL:
Comp- $83k
401k- $4k
Block- 256

I'm super grateful to be at FDX but year one pay is a slap in the face. I tried to build my bank and play catch up at the squadron after training.

WAY too much flying. 2.5 times my block hours and 3 times my salary… on year one pay. I’m surprised by how many people are enamored by that. No thanks.

This is a great chart. I hope you do it for 2022 also.

I work to get paid. My days off and my paycheck are what makes me happy. I could care less about my block hours and honestly don't even pay attention to them. I maximize my days off by maximizing my pay on my days on.

Being on the hook 18 days a month is gross. 48 hour layovers are also not appealing to me unless I am with family. This job is just that: a job. The things that matter to me are all at home.

I have young kids, being on the hook is irrelevant to me as long as I’m not getting used. Credit to TAFB ratio is the only metric I really care about, with the tie breaker going to less block.

And we totally agree on 48 hour layovers, though I’ve never seen anything close to that.

Thanks. What is the Direct Contribution percentage at SWA? Do they have a match for employee contributions?

15% and you don’t have to put in a dime to get it.

When they haven’t called in a couple of months it’s not too bad.

no matching of personal contributions. Company contribution is just 15% multiplied by your income.

SWA 24 years
W-2 $390,000
NEC 40,500
Total $430,500
620 hours block
123 days worked
59 Pacific crossings.
Live in base finally.

​​​​​​​That's another interesting factor. I prefer doing my 16 days in one chunk and having 2 weeks off straight. I was skeptical coming into it, but turns out I prefer it over constantly going to work. I have more quality time at home. I spent 7 days at home on long call this month also. And for 48+ hour layovers, I like those too. I suppose I like exploring the area and finding things to do.

Year 3 Legacy 757/767 FO

$171K W2
$26.5K 401K DC
450 Hours Block
975 Hours Credit

Took 4 weeks off unpaid for the birth of my son.

Congrats on the little guy!

NK year 10 Captain

Gross $295K
$41K DC
705 Block
Live in base, average 14 days off a month. 3 years to go.

I’ve always thought the best metric to measure the value of a contract is credit to TAFB (or even better is time away from home TAFH for trips with DH for commuters). But its too time consuming to add all the trips’ TAFB for the entire year. So credit to days worked is the easy alternative.

I agree. I’m not a commuter and live 20-25 minutes from the KCM line, so credit/TAFH is very easy to track with the total monthly per diem. I do a lot of 1-1 trips that start at 7pm and return at 10am the next day. 2 short legs and 15 hours away from home is definitely not equal to 6 legs and 30 hours away, even though both are 2 “days” worked and ~10.5 hours of credit. It would be nice if more people posted their credit/TAFH along with their earnings.

I thought this was a 2022 Salary Survey thread.

SWA 10/11 year Pay Scale
6 months FO, 6 months CA
Live in Domicile
670 hrs block time
166 days at work (13.83/month)
16 days at home on reserve unused
255 TFP of sick leave
114 TFP of vacation pay (3 weeks)
Total Compensation 454,000

I think you meant 59 Pacific “half-crossings”. Unless the 737 now flys to Asia. But congratulations on that impressive salary. Jealous.

Frontier
6th year CA A320
Live in base
350.4k Worked
6k Per Diem
54k DC
410k total
0 Premium because I'm not one of the chosen ones
~600 flight hours.
What is a day off for 1000 Alex?

Wanted to see what life was like if I whored out...I found out. Wouldn't recommend it.

Isn’t $40.5k the max employer contribution for 2022? Several people on here are effectively double reporting their income…

I don’t think that’s correct because all mine went into my 401K and it was over $40.5. Hope below is helpful but I’m definitely not a retirement specialist.

This is copied from the Union:

Looking at the schematic, you can see money comes from three sources — Pilot contributions, the Company's non-elective contribution (NEC) which is Company money that does not require Pilot contributions, and profit sharing. Pilot contributions are limited by the IRS 402(g) limit ($20,500 in 2022). Money from both the NEC and profit sharing flow as qualified money into the qualified plan until the Pilot hits the IRS 401(a)(17) limit ($305,000 in 2022). Contributions based on income above $305,000 continue to flow and can be contributed into the 401(a)(17) Plan or paid as cash. The 401(a)(17) Plan is elected by the Pilot each fall of the previous year.*

In the Qualified Plan, the Pilot's contribution and money below $305,000 from both the NEC and profit sharing cannot exceed the IRS 415(c) limit ($61,000 in 2022). Any money over that “spills over.” Just like the 401(a)(17) side, based on the Pilot's election in the fall of the previous year, the additional money is paid as cash or deposited into the non-qualified 415 Excess Benefit Plan.

SWA 11 yr 8mo FO 4mo CA
w-2 $330k
NEC $40,500
Block 545 hrs
total $370k

Yep, you definitely *****d out this year...

My Brother and I
 

Me;
This will be my final year, I’ll admit, I already have one foot out the door.

K4 747 CA, 12+ years (topped out)
Total. 374k
401k - Commie doesn’t know what this is. (Honest typo, but I’ll allow it) 4500 co 21,000 personal.
165 Days worked, block just under 400. Only 33 landings.

Tons of vacation, 2 or 3 extra time trips.
Kimchi coming out of my ears. I’m over this.

My brother;
5 years remaining.

ATI 5th year CA.
303k total.
He hustled and missed his own birthday.
401k co - 5000 self - 15000
Days off - 165 he picked up a premium trip a few times, high value. Their regular OT is just straight pay, seems shady.
Block - 689, however, he spent two months on short call.
He seems to enjoy it more than me, the Amazon flying is easy, but recently he’s upset with long sits.
Lots of management problems and the same drama that reminds me of the regional days.
He lives in nowhere Midwest and loves home basing.

Your brother must really enjoy his job. That seems like an awful amount of flying and time away for a 60-year-old. Is he playing catch-up with retirement? No judgement, it just surprises me to see some older pilots working that hard if they don't have to.

Not all “older pilots” are a monolithic silo/group with a boat/sports car/vacation home complete with girlfriend for when the wife isn’t around.

Depending on timing as well as a host of other factors, the dark decade (and) a half may not have been very kind to their careers. Especially if they were in the ACMI world and dealt with ABEX/Airborne/Emery/Ryan/North American/Tower/Tradewinds/BAX/CAT/Gemini/World and whomever else.

Christ, I’m approaching mid 50’s and can only say that half my ~25 year airline career has been an upward slope/progression.

Just glad I saved, always lived within my means, and won’t have to work that hard from here on out, HOPEFULLY.

2022 Salary, as an amount of money measured against time. If you like soley comparing that against Jan1-Dec31.. cool.

I like comparing money earned for a pilot's average day of work, TAFB, or similar. Pilot A making 200k/20 days off out earned Pilot B with 300k/avg 11 days off IMO. Pay is just the exchange of time for money. Without seeing how much time is exchanged for that pay, your W2 doesn't reflect the real value of your work.

Allegiant 7yr CA

$249k
$24.9k 401k
479 hours of block

Home every night
2 layovers for the year, for training
2 deadheads, also for training
1 EDCT for the year when it rained in Vegas
0 meals eaten at the airport or hotel lobby bar

Could be a great job if we got a real contract and mgmt

So does that mean my flights from MIA to SJU or PAP doesn’t count as Atlantic crossings???

Lol

Unbelievable. Only our guys think that they’re some kind of special breed flying to Hawaii.

I’m genuinely surprised how few people grasp this concept.

Regional CA for most of the year/Breeze 220 FO
$127k total compensation

No, the max pertains to the amount of income to which the company can apply their DC. For 2022 that was $305k. So you have to multiply your DC% by that to figure out the maximum company contribution. Most companies have cash on cap or some other vehicle to pay out the amounts above $305k, though.

If Allegiant had a base where I lived, I would have chosen them for the reasons you posted. At least at this stage in my life.

AK FO step 5/6
W2 218k
DC 28k
Mostly just fly my line. 14-16 days off per month.
Just a few picked up trips

Atlas
11 year 747 CA

~$448,000, including $38,000 profit sharing. Does not include loss of license imputed income or taxable per diem (about $8,500 total).

$26,600 401k

Total compensation of roughly $474,600. Probably $60,000 of that was COVID override. Worked 3 OT trips this year as well and had some vacation payout from unused 2021 vacation.

Depends on age (over 50 gets another $6.5k) and whether or not you filled your portion ($20,500 for ‘22)

Max personal + company can’t exceed $61k for ‘22

Anything above that can be captured via another vehicle like a Top Hat plan or returned to you as Excess Benefit cash.

Atlas FO, year 1/2 (mostly 1)

W2 $263k
401K match + DC $22.1k
Per Diem $14.9k

Total: $300k.