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RJSAviator76 12-20-2022 06:43 AM

Southwest
7th year FO - live in base.
$337.6k gross wages (includes $6.3k NEC/B-plan excess and $12.3k Profit Sharing excess)
$8.1k in per diem.
$40,500 B-plan maxed out.
171 days worked (inclusive of a single block of unused reserve)
787 hours of block time

OT35 12-20-2022 07:56 AM

UAL Tray Table Mafia
3 yr FO
12-17 days off
177k gross
35k 401k (16%)
approx 700 hrs of block

Dunkin 12-20-2022 08:40 AM

AA 2/3 year FO

$287k
$45k 401k
$332 total income
940 block hours, rarely had any cancelations this year which was unusual
Live in base and avg 13 days off

MonkeyChunk 12-20-2022 08:41 AM

FedEx
767 FO
2nd Yr
$233k Taxable
$22k 401k Company Contributions
$10k Per Diem

Block: 380
Days worked: 147 (including commute time, but mostly deadheads so N/A)
Avg 12 days work/month, 18 off/month
19 Weekend days worked
0 Holidays worked
Commuter

at6d 12-20-2022 08:45 AM

Jeez guys, I must be a slacker.

Southwest

7th year FO - Drive 2 hrs to base
1 premium 2-day trip from open time
3 weeks vacation as in I dropped everything and was gone for almost two months

$222K (not including the balance of last month)
$5.6k in per diem.
$32.5 NEC
630 hours of block time, only flew my line

ChickenFinger 12-20-2022 09:38 AM

Alaska
1st year FO 737
$137K gross, includes $16K T/A signing bonus.
Additional $15K DC to 401K
Roughly 625 block hours.
Line holder since off training.
Live in base. Wouldn’t say I hustle, mostly just fly my line.

poopooplatter 12-20-2022 09:58 AM

SWA
6th year FO
248K
6K per diem
37K NEC
10K Profit Sharing

301K Total
Block 700

BIGRIG 12-20-2022 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by JohnnyTexas (Post 3555857)
Southwest
I like to “hustle” a bit, that’s for BIGRIG
12 year Captain (15 years) 245.64/TFP
Domicile seniority 75% (25% off bottom)
Reserve by choice most months
570.5 total compensation
530 (including 30.5 NEC overage above IRS limit and 19.5 2021 profit sharing paid as cash and 7.7 per diem)
40.5 NEC (15%)
778 block hours
1924.5 Trips for Pay (TFP) 160.38/month
166 fly days plus 39 days unused on reserve 3.25/month
205 “work” days
92 nights away from home
Days Off 13.3/month avg
Drive to work 40 minutes
Calculations 1 Dec 2021 to 30 Nov 2022 since December pays in January

Outlier year of course. Juiced by double time MOU in January and February and lots of time and a half open time

My heart is full.

CafeConLeche 12-20-2022 11:36 AM

JetBlue

4th year 320 FO
$234K
$46.8K premium pay/ Junior assignment
$7.5K per diem
$35.8K 401K
average 14 days off a month
commuter
864 block hrs

I had never picked up premium till about April of this year after we bought a house and **** started to break. I feel dirty inside. VDA slut….

Al Czervik 12-20-2022 11:49 AM

AA WB FO
~10yr
~230k
~60 401k
180 block

e6bpilot 12-20-2022 12:28 PM

SWA 8/9 year FO

W-2 $321,292 (Includes cash excess of 3255)
NEC $40,500
perdiem (are we really counting this?) $7,600
800 block hours
Too lazy to calculate days away from home and all that, but it is generally somewhere around 15 a month, a few more some months, many less in others. Took full advantage of my vacation weeks to either fly or travel. Spent 6 weeks vacationing in California making memories with my family, mainly by working my butt off and then blowing holes in my schedule.

parking cost me $180
uniforms around $300
Paid for my own substandard short and long term disability


As was mentioned above, this year was an outlier. We had a double time MOU that I took full advantage of plus I was able to clear a lot of my straight time flying and replace it with premium flying. This was an exceptional year for that and I don't expect next year will be the same. I was also blessed with good health and an understanding spouse. I do work the system to my advantage, but I also maintain a very healthy work/life balance. My goal is to maximize my pay per day at work and I don't stress block hours or anything like that.

FlyingPirate 12-20-2022 12:48 PM

5th year Southwest FO live in base
$220k W2$33k NEC
Average 17 days off/month
Mostly fly my line. Rarely pick up anything extra, maybe a turn every few months. No JAs this year. Took most of last December as FMLA (unpaid) so this reflects 11 months of pay.

I like my time off.

Armyguy 12-20-2022 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 3556149)
AA WB FO
~10yr
~230k
~60 401k
180 block

how do you come up with 60k in your 401k? Just wondering

Al Czervik 12-20-2022 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by Armyguy (Post 3556238)
how do you come up with 60k in your 401k? Just wondering

personal and DC

LaunchMcQuack 12-20-2022 01:27 PM

SWA.
F/O.
Commuting line holder.
Worked 9 days a month.
Block 500.
Six figures. Does not include PD, PS, 401.
Never missed a family event.
Hustle to work less.

StayFrosty 12-20-2022 01:37 PM

Southwest - FO
Ten months Year 5 & Two months Year 6
Live in base
Gross Pay: $289,532.46
Per Diem: $8154.58
NEC: $43,429.90
Profit Sharing: $10,540.27
Total Comp: $351,657.21
Imputed Income for SWAG/Other & Non Tax LOL: $7871.68 (this is added to taxable gross)
Paid $720 in Airport Parking, no idea what I spent on uniform items
Paid $4811.25 in STD/LTD :(
Paid $0 for medical insurance for family and I (Regular Plan PPO)
Days Worked: 173
Avg Days Off: 16/month

This info really helped me when I came over to the 121 world and hope it helps someone else. Safe flying!

G4poor 12-20-2022 02:49 PM

Once again SWA pay amazes me. The FO’s there make way more than I do as an A320 captain.

poopooplatter 12-20-2022 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by G4poor (Post 3556343)
Once again SWA pay amazes me. The FO’s there make way more than I do as an A320 captain.

Shhhh…it’s negotiating season…and it does not go well right now.

CRJJ 12-20-2022 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by LaunchMcQuack (Post 3556279)
SWA.
F/O.
Commuting line holder.
Worked 9 days a month.
Block 500.
Six figures. Does not include PD, PS, 401.
Never missed a family event.
Hustle to work less.

Six figures. $100,000-999,999k? Super useful lol

4V14T0R 12-20-2022 03:54 PM

SWA FO
Yr 3/4 Payscale
$229K W2
$34K NEC
$8.4K Profit Share (2021 paid in 2022)
$6.7K Per Diem
1778 TFP / 148 per month avg
804 Block
AVG 16.67 Days On (Includes Days at work, Unused Reserve, and Sick Days)
AVG 8.89 TFP/Day On
AVG 12.33 Days at Work
AVG 7.25 Hotels per Month
31 Unused Reserve Days
10 Months Reserve / 2 Months Blank Lines
Drive to Work

nuball5 12-20-2022 05:11 PM

JetBlue
6th year Airbus FO
Comp- $318,000
401k- $45,000
Per Diem- $3,000
Block- 560 hrs
Average 18 days off per month

I bid with check airmen with almost all my trips getting either bought off for IOE, up-gauged or down-gauged to other equipment or bought by instructors needing consolidation.

Armyguy 12-20-2022 06:17 PM


Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 3556246)
personal and DC

Not sure your personal contributions should count, It isn't like we get a match.

Did I miss the 12/31 check being out yet?

I like 99% of what you post so my apologies if I am being a pr*ck

Armyguy 12-20-2022 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by e6bpilot (Post 3556204)
SWA 8/9 year FO

W-2 $321,292 (Includes cash excess of 3255)
NEC $40,500
perdiem (are we really counting this?) $7,600
800 block hours
Too lazy to calculate days away from home and all that, but it is generally somewhere around 15 a month, a few more some months, many less in others. Took full advantage of my vacation weeks to either fly or travel. Spent 6 weeks vacationing in California making memories with my family, mainly by working my butt off and then blowing holes in my schedule.

parking cost me $180
uniforms around $300
Paid for my own substandard short and long term disability


As was mentioned above, this year was an outlier. We had a double time MOU that I took full advantage of plus I was able to clear a lot of my straight time flying and replace it with premium flying. This was an exceptional year for that and I don't expect next year will be the same. I was also blessed with good health and an understanding spouse. I do work the system to my advantage, but I also maintain a very healthy work/life balance. My goal is to maximize my pay per day at work and I don't stress block hours or anything like that.

Is the SWA DC to the 401K different?

I see you made: 321K in W-2 wages and 40K in NEC. and then I see this guy right below your post:
5th year Southwest FO live in base
$220k W2$33k NEC
(his NEC is roughly 15% and your is 12%, did you actually make 280K in W-2 wages?)

Armyguy 12-20-2022 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by e6bpilot (Post 3556204)
SWA 8/9 year FO

W-2 $321,292 (Includes cash excess of 3255)
NEC $40,500
perdiem (are we really counting this?) $7,600
800 block hours
Too lazy to calculate days away from home and all that, but it is generally somewhere around 15 a month, a few more some months, many less in others. Took full advantage of my vacation weeks to either fly or travel. Spent 6 weeks vacationing in California making memories with my family, mainly by working my butt off and then blowing holes in my schedule.

parking cost me $180
uniforms around $300
Paid for my own substandard short and long term disability


As was mentioned above, this year was an outlier. We had a double time MOU that I took full advantage of plus I was able to clear a lot of my straight time flying and replace it with premium flying. This was an exceptional year for that and I don't expect next year will be the same. I was also blessed with good health and an understanding spouse. I do work the system to my advantage, but I also maintain a very healthy work/life balance. My goal is to maximize my pay per day at work and I don't stress block hours or anything like that.

How is your NEC low compared to other SWA pilots?

Al Czervik 12-20-2022 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by Armyguy (Post 3556470)
Not sure your personal contributions should count, It isn't like we get a match.

Did I miss the 12/31 check being out yet?

I like 99% of what you post so my apologies if I am being a pr*ck

I get ya. I made x and x ended up in retirement. Just how I look at it. The 230 contained the 20.5.

Flyfasteatassss 12-20-2022 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by OT35 (Post 3555955)
UAL Tray Table Mafia
3 yr FO
12-17 days off
177k gross
35k 401k (16%)
approx 700 hrs of block

16% of 177 is 28k

avi8er 12-20-2022 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by G4poor (Post 3556343)
Once again SWA pay amazes me. The FO’s there make way more than I do as an A320 captain.

that’s because we fly our ass off. Just look at the block hours.

OT35 12-21-2022 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by Flyfasteatassss (Post 3556584)
16% of 177 is 28k

I read the number straight off my ytd prap, but yeah. Math, edit

Crockrocket95 12-21-2022 04:34 AM

WN
Year 3 / 4 (3 months year 4)

Total Comp - 310K
W2 - 263K (4.7k from 2021 PS)
401K NEC - 39K
Per Diem - 8K
16-17 days worked per month AVG
899 Block hours in 365 from final DEC pay date. I do work a bit more than normal.
Commuted for 6 months to reserve , sat reserve for another 5 months with a 2 hour drive to base.

PleaseComplete 12-21-2022 05:01 AM

NK Year 1 FO
Training pay until mid Feb
Holding line since July
474 block

~51k Gross
~7.6 DC

missed probably 5k due to Military leave, 20 hours of premium (200%) flying

VisionWings 12-21-2022 05:23 AM

this number seems embarrassingly low compared to even some regionals now. That contract needs some work.


Originally Posted by PleaseComplete (Post 3556704)
NK Year 1 FO
Training pay until mid Feb
Holding line since July
474 block

~51k Gross
~7.6 DC

missed probably 5k due to Military leave, 20 hours of premium (200%) flying


JohnDeSpacito 12-21-2022 05:36 AM

Spirit 5 year pay and commuter CA on reserve
$206k w2
$30.5k 401k

$236.6k Total

72 hours min guarantee every month
No x/y list calls (premium)
Too many days in crashpad in a base that’s being shrunk

BeechedJet 12-21-2022 05:48 AM

I decided to leave NK a couple months ago but as a 5/6 year captain stuck on reserve. No drops and never getting a call for premium, I was on pace to make around the same amount of money. 200k to fly 200+ people in the class II out of SJU is horrible.

flyguy81 12-21-2022 06:13 AM

SWA 7yr FO
$288k
$6500 of that is per diem
$11200 of that is profit sharing
$72600 in taxes paid….thanks for that
$40,500 B fund

Total comp: $328,500

YTD block is around 840….way too high. Planning needs to quit with the high block lines.

Work a little OT a month…prob avg 14-15 off
Live in base

pitchtrim 12-21-2022 06:49 AM

I do like the pay at southwest looking at these numbers, but yes those block times are brutal. Spent too many years getting burnt out in the regionals flying that much to want to make the jump to southwest. Not that widebody long haul is for everyone, but I certainly prefer it. Food for thought for pilots considering various jobs.

PleaseComplete 12-21-2022 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by VisionWings (Post 3556719)
this number seems embarrassingly low compared to even some regionals now. That contract needs some work.

I way rounded up the missed pay for the military as well.

It is extremely embarrassing, which is why I posted it, people need to know.

mulcher 12-21-2022 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by pitchtrim (Post 3556803)
I do like the pay at southwest looking at these numbers, but yes those block times are brutal. Spent too many years getting burnt out in the regionals flying that much to want to make the jump to southwest. Not that widebody long haul is for everyone, but I certainly prefer it. Food for thought for pilots considering various jobs.

I don't block near what these guys do. I sure as hell didn't make enough as a CA on 12 year pay. Our rates need to come way up. I doubt SWAPA will be raising the bar though. I'll be voting NO I'm sure.
Salary: $353,000
Perdiem: $7,000
Company NEC: $40,500
Health care: free.
Fly my line blocked 673hrs. I couldn't imagine doing over 800hrs. Sounds very fatiguing.
I call in sick when sick...IMSAFE. I fly with too many with allergies then get sick.
AVG 18 days off per month. I rather be off. I never work over vac or pick up vac months.
Paid way to much for STD and LTD. Better get fixed this contract
Paid for uniforms(I havent had the need to buy anything for a year or two.), parking.
Paid way to much to the guberment.

ZapBrannigan 12-21-2022 08:01 AM

SWA 9yr FO and a few months as CA
$275K
$6200 of that is per diem
$7100 of that is profit sharing
$63000 in taxes
$39143 B fund

Total comp including B fund: $314,000
Lived in base until August. Commuting now. Very very rarely pick up any extra flying. I value my time at home (especially now)


YTD block is around 548, but a month was vacation and another three weeks in school.

mulcher 12-21-2022 08:42 AM

Sorry I forgot to put down SWA. It was my profile picture but have a more appropriate one now. I guess my total would be just north of $400,000 if you believe in adding wages, perdiem and NEC together.

AllYourBaseAreB 12-21-2022 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by Armyguy (Post 3556477)
Is the SWA DC to the 401K different?

I see you made: 321K in W-2 wages and 40K in NEC. and then I see this guy right below your post:
5th year Southwest FO live in base
$220k W2$33k NEC
(his NEC is roughly 15% and your is 12%, did you actually make 280K in W-2 wages?)

he probably contributed the personal max to his 401k, and the DC of 40k plus that equaled the total max, and then subsequent DC money was paid out as normal income


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