block? AVG days off per month?

732 hours block, AVG 13.2 days off per month. Worked a bunch early in the year, didn't work vacation, few months with 22 days off. All in all, a very easy year.

And just to clarify, Average days off = days not home. So I did not count my 10 day paid vacation layovers as "days off", but I did count gateway travel days as days on.

Alaska
1st year FO B737
W2: 92k
401k: 12k
Bonuses: 16k
Per Diem: 2.5k
Total Comp: 123k
Block Flown: 353
Days worked: 5 months training pay. Free 1.5 month summer vacation waiting for OE. Short call reserve 12 days off a month. Plenty of reserve days at home
Live in base
No pickups or premium

Cant forget about the 90k miles

And I’m assuming you’re an ANC based FO flying premium China trips yes?

Any AS guys care to fess up!?

Well, you didn’t earn anywhere close to that year 1 (mostly) at Brown.

Nope. But once you hit second year pay tho, a lot of good perks open up.

Alaska 9th year FO

$239k "earnings" total + 25k DC
PS was 8K/ "Retro/Signing bonus" was 28k included in that
DC was only 25k since I added 15k in After Tax 401k to reach 61k IRS limit early
(You guys that had exactly 40.5k company contributions and have the After tax/Roth conversion available need to speak to your tax advisor)

Averaged 18/19 days off living in base doing 6.5-7.5 straight pay day trips with occasional 2 day

I had 5 bases this year.

UAL Year 1/ Year 2

Narrowbody live in base

$78k wages

$~6500 per diem

$12k 401k

Around 300 block I think

Mix of line and reserve and trying to spend less time working on the road. For new guys planning financially, you will likely make plenty more than I did.

Also, another $300k or so from my hourly wage and shares in the contracting firm I work at and partially own. Although things have been good there, I am thinking of retiring and selling my shares and just flying. I live beneath my means like John Carr said and it is great advice. I could build seniority as an FO and pick a nice schedule that will work for me and my family and should be able to make enough money at the same time.

Merry Christmas

Post #86 is from an AS 1st yr..

2nd year 747 FO guarantee with no premium pay is around 100k. So yeah, lots of OT and premium pay available in the last couple years but that could all change overnight.

My respect for some SWA guys went down after they started posting their obligatory “look at me I’m in Hawaii” pictures to FB. No one cares and you aren’t in junior high.

Time to be thankful for roads not taken….

fun comparison, also live in base

UAL 1yr / 2nd yr *w/upgrade
No rsv, aggressive with premium pay

180k gross, 600 hrs
~14-15 days off a month

Airline survey man., No-one cares how much you made from selling stocks or semen on the side... just an observation.

Where does it say airline survey? All I see is “End of 2022 Salary Survey”

Nice Bobby. Sounds like you’re doing well. That’s one thing I really do like about being an airline pilot: the variety in schedules and desires. Some guys work hard and others take it really easy.

Ya, whoops..

I was gonna say the same about you RE the contracting firm!

Every time I read this thread, I think about applying to SWA.

BobbyLeeSwagger showin’ the swagga’!!!!

(FA panties fly)


Rumor was it was his OnlyFans

meh. Yeh they make a killing but they work their a$$ off for it. Also you’ll never have the option to dabble in widebody flying.

Didn't think it had to be spelled out...

Do they? Sounds like every SWA guy is banking $400K with 18 days off per month. Atlas not far behind.

Really? The ones I’ve talked to are flying 3-5 legs a day around 13-15 off making nowhere near that much..

I really don’t know why you’re so offended by my post. You asked for income and that’s what I gave you! And if it wasn’t for my ex wife and her greedy little hands, that number would be a bit higher. But you don’t see me complaining or getting upset like you did, do you?

Atlas 8th Yr 747 Capt:

$450k gross
$26.8k company 401k contribution
($476.8k total compensation)

740 hrs
Average 15 days off per month.

Worked a bit extra and sold back 2 out of 3 weeks vacation but I didn't miss them. Had quite a few full months off through bidding smartly.

Surprisingly didn't feel like I worked terribly hard but then again a good portion of those hours were spent sleeping in the bunk.

This is a forum about airline pilot income, stop being purposely obtuse…

B6
3 year FO (Bus)
commuter
195k wages
31k 401k
avg 14 days off a month
picked up several premium trips first half of the year, nothing in the second half.

Just jumped to a legacy for the ability to have a long drive to work.


also 301k from my consulting gig. (I too like adding random income into airline pay discussions).

Bravo, nice work.

Atlas Air
747 FO 2.5 year on property
W2 $206,500~
401K Match + DC $22,500~
Total $229,000~
Blocked 576hrs.

Live in base and pick up no open time.
About15 days at home a month. Sometimes more with living in base.
2 weeks vacation.
Time Home $ priceless
I could have hustled but dont need too.

I would never do it on the side. I am a straight shooter.

The math on those doesn’t work out with 18 days off a month. One or the other, maybe but both don’t seem likely…

ATI, 767 3 year FO $172,000 but worked ALOT extra this year. Blocked 661 hours. They offer 50% of up to 6% 401K match. I averaged 10 days off per month. Definitely other places seem more appropriate if you want to make extra $.

I slightly exaggerated the numbers to highlight the point I was getting at, but yeah the math doesn’t add up in some of these posts. Atlas skipper 8yr banking $450K with 15 days off each month…? @ $276/hr, that’s 1650 credit hours for the year, 135/month. Takes a bit more than selling back vacay and picking up a trip here and there. As my Atlas buddy texted me in response: 15 days off a month doesn’t mean 15 days at home per month. Merry Xmas / Happy Holidays however y’all do it!

FEDEX
 

Year 5 NB Captain
4 months total / 2 months in upgrade training

Year 5/6 WB Captain
8 months total / 3 months commuting

Worked Wages: $224,619
Sick Pay: $21,893
Vacation Pay: $48,672
Company B Fund: $26,566
A fund Value: ????
Per Diem: not included
Total Compensation: $321,750

Calendar Days Worked: 116 (includes reserve)
Family Dinners Missed: 65
Nights Away from my Own Bed: 44
Wakeful Hours Away from Home: 1213
Avg Waking Time Away From Home/Day: 3.3 hrs
Avg Pay per Hour Away From Home: $265/hr
Average Compensation per day worked: $2,774

Block Hours: 221.9hrs
Landings: 73

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A little different this year.
I did “wakeful hours.”
ie, Hours away from home 6:30am-10:30pm.
Time Away from home, not base
(includes any driving time)

I credited 1705 for the year. Avg’d 15 off a month. 2 months of that was 1.5x for flying my line and 2x for OT.

Won’t be working as hard this year. I don’t do 4-5 leg day trips. Avg is prob 2.5. Some days I’ll do 1-2. Some days I’ll do 2-3.

Its not a WB type schedule…but I drive to work and don’t work holidays or weekends.

Hey the numbers are the numbers, man. Just reporting what I did. I didn't count gateway days but I live close enough to base to drive. No matter what airline you work for that's the key to fine living. Just helps that Atlas only makes you do it once a month so you can drive a lot farther. That plus quite a few months of deadheading direct from home to an outstation on day 1 (or 2...) and it really adds up.