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G4 FO
G4 FO Year 1 FO (Year 2 in 10/22)
$75k Gross $5.5K Employer Contribution $7.5k per diem (Was in training until March, then IOE in April, then 3 months of TDY) Blocked about 420 $1,874 was VFN (200%) |
Originally Posted by FTv3
(Post 3559350)
I slightly exaggerated the numbers to highlight the point I was getting at, but yeah the math doesn’t add up in some of these posts. Atlas skipper 8yr banking $450K with 15 days off each month…? @ $276/hr, that’s 1650 credit hours for the year, 135/month. Takes a bit more than selling back vacay and picking up a trip here and there. As my Atlas buddy texted me in response: 15 days off a month doesn’t mean 15 days at home per month. Merry Xmas / Happy Holidays however y’all do it!
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Originally Posted by FTv3
(Post 3559350)
I slightly exaggerated the numbers to highlight the point I was getting at, but yeah the math doesn’t add up in some of these posts. Atlas skipper 8yr banking $450K with 15 days off each month…? @ $276/hr, that’s 1650 credit hours for the year, 135/month. Takes a bit more than selling back vacay and picking up a trip here and there. As my Atlas buddy texted me in response: 15 days off a month doesn’t mean 15 days at home per month. Merry Xmas / Happy Holidays however y’all do it!
When most trips you fly pay 175% it adds up. My best month was 176 hours without working a single extra day, and that was year 1 junior FO flying. 135 a month wasn't even hard this year. In fact, I'd say in ANC it was below average. My best month was 38k, as a year 2 FO. The highest guarantee I saw this year was 209 hours. Fly a bit OT and you could credit 300hrs in a month. We had at least one senior CA who broke 7 figures. |
AA 10 year NB CA
LC rsv every month. Pick up zero extra flying. dropped a dozen days unpaid. took all my vacation days. 274 x 73 = 240k income 240k x .16 = 38k in 401k throw in some per diem and training pay I made a bit more than that but not much. union logbook says about 340 hrs block. Assuming that doesn’t include all the deadheading I do. Don’t feel like digging any further. |
Originally Posted by Reese
(Post 3559408)
Year 5 NB Captain
4 months total / 2 months in upgrade training Year 5/6 WB Captain 8 months total / 3 months commuting Worked Wages: $224,619 Sick Pay: $21,893 Vacation Pay: $48,672 Company B Fund: $26,566 A fund Value: ???? Per Diem: not included Total Compensation: $321,750 Calendar Days Worked: 116 (includes reserve) Family Dinners Missed: 65 Nights Away from my Own Bed: 44 Wakeful Hours Away from Home: 1213 Avg Waking Time Away From Home/Day: 3.3 hrs Avg Pay per Hour Away From Home: $265/hr Average Compensation per day worked: $2,774 Block Hours: 221.9hrs Landings: 73 **** A little different this year. I did “wakeful hours.” ie, Hours away from home 6:30am-10:30pm. Time Away from home, not base (includes any driving time) |
Senior International Jet Captain at a Major Airline (I fly to Mexico)
Salary 240Kyear 401k 56k (I like to include my contribution so it’s counted twice to make it seem like I make more than I really do) 30K worth of a good QOL 45K worth of work rules 6K fudge factor just incase my total compensation is too low 20k for having a bigger ego than the plane I fly 36 Atlantic crossings for the year (IAH-CUN) (also not sure why I am even posting this or anyone cares) $377K total compensation |
Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger
(Post 3559196)
I was gonna say the same about you RE the contracting firm!
Anyway back to the W-2’s. It’s great to have people willing to share like they do. |
Originally Posted by Halon1211
(Post 3559516)
Senior International Jet Captain at a Major Airline (I fly to Mexico)
Salary 240Kyear 401k 56k (I like to include my contribution so it’s counted twice to make it seem like I make more than I really do) 30K worth of a good QOL 45K worth of work rules 6K fudge factor just incase my total compensation is too low 20k for having a bigger ego than the plane I fly 36 Atlantic crossings for the year (IAH-CUN) (also not sure why I am even posting this or anyone cares) |
Last January I bought a $2 scratch off and won $5. Based on that I can take my regular salary and project I have to potential to make over 600k.
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Originally Posted by FTv3
(Post 3559350)
I slightly exaggerated the numbers to highlight the point I was getting at, but yeah the math doesn’t add up in some of these posts. Atlas skipper 8yr banking $450K with 15 days off each month…? @ $276/hr, that’s 1650 credit hours for the year, 135/month. Takes a bit more than selling back vacay and picking up a trip here and there. As my Atlas buddy texted me in response: 15 days off a month doesn’t mean 15 days at home per month. Merry Xmas / Happy Holidays however y’all do it!
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Originally Posted by onedolla
(Post 3559556)
At least now you can afford a geography lesson!
i was poking fun of the other poster who said “Pacific crossings” flying to Hawaii in the 737 from the mainland. but yes the Gulf of Mexico is part of the Atlantic Ocean. Not sure where you thought it was… “The Gulf of Mexico (Spanish: Golfo de México) is an ocean basin and a marginal seaof the Atlantic Ocean“ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Mexico |
Originally Posted by Halon1211
(Post 3559581)
maybe you can afford sarcasm lessons 🤔
i was poking fun of the other poster who said “Pacific crossings” flying to Hawaii in the 737 from the mainland. but yes the Gulf of Mexico is part of the Atlantic Ocean. Not sure where you thought it was… “The Gulf of Mexico (Spanish: Golfo de México) is an ocean basin and a marginal seaof the Atlantic Ocean“ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Mexico I truly believe in the American dream. Not too many years ago I was in $8000 credit card debt. Got a job working construction as an apprentice and quickly realized I could turn my life around. I paid off that debt and worked hard for years! Eventually had the opportunity to buy into the company which was a risky move like anything. During some slower times, it was a little nerve wracking. My shares were paid off but there was little income coming in. It all worked out. The reason I share this is to stay positive. |
Does flying over Lake Erie, from end to end, count as a crossing?
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4 year Omni FO
$173k 104 block $10k company contribution to 401k |
Atlas 12 yr, 767 CA
Lazy and live in base. Bid mostly week on/week off patterns with layovers in base as much as possible so I don’t work very much. Don’t know the meaning of open-time. Average 16 days off per month. Always take my two months of vacation and conflict bid my training. Very little Article 33 flying on the light twin. Haven’t worked a Christmas, Thanksgiving or New Year’s Day in 6 years. Passed on Brown and AA last year. The golden handcuffs are firmly shackled I suppose. I could bid about 50% seniority on the 747 or 777 and after seeing some of the paychecks those guys are getting I may have to jump ship to another fleet. W2: 268k 401k match: 11.5k (without true-up) Total comp: $279,500 Block hours: 301 |
Originally Posted by ImSoSuss
(Post 3559603)
Does flying over Lake Erie, from end to end, count as a crossing?
It sure does! |
AA NB FO
4yr pay 256k wages 40k 401k DC 296k total AA compensation 480 block hours commuter didnt feel like I worked that hard at all. lots of drops for being unqualified and various other conflict scams during the year. I have a busy personal life so it was amazing I made 296K used to drop my trips and pick up broken trips at premium. Those days have ended because the company locked down trip trading. I made @250k total last year and that was an aberration but this year was more of the same. Really, really doubt I’ll make more than 200k total in 2023. |
Originally Posted by Armyguy
(Post 3559636)
AA NB FO
4yr pay 256k wages 40k 401k DC 296k total AA compensation 480 block hours commuter didnt feel like I worked that hard at all. lots of drops for being unqualified and various other conflict scams during the year. I have a busy personal life so it was amazing I made 296K used to drop my trips and pick up broken trips at premium. Those days have ended because the company locked down trip trading. I made @250k total last year and that was an aberration but this year was more of the same. Really, really doubt I’ll make more than 200k total in 2023. |
Hawaiian CA A321 8yr
Gross 301,000 DC 401K $44,500 = 345,500 Block 508 99% of the trips are 2 days; one leg out, one leg back. I like easy and it doesn’t get easier |
Originally Posted by Supercubbin
(Post 3559197)
Every time I read this thread, I think about applying to SWA.
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UAL 4/5 year 756 FO
203k W2 31.5k DC to 401k 234.5k total 635 block 96 legs 16.75 average days off per month I pick up premium in summer and drop down below guarantee in winter. |
AA 737 CA - 9th Yr
Flight Pay (Including Premium) = $368,208 Sick/Vac Acc Payout, Per Diem, Excess DC Co. Contribution, etc = $74,789 16% 401k DC = $40,500 Total Compensation = $483,497 Total Block = 624 Hrs. Average 16 Days Off per Month Live in base 10 Months Short Call Reserve, 2 Months a Line Flew quite a bit of Premium (Some months averaging 150-180 credit) Biggest blessing is baby #2 on the way in a few days if all goes well Happy Holidays |
Originally Posted by CenterlinePrep
(Post 3560079)
Biggest blessing is baby #2 on the way in a few days if all goes well
Happy Holidays |
Originally Posted by CenterlinePrep
(Post 3560079)
AA 737 CA - 9th Yr
Flight Pay (Including Premium) = $368,208 Sick/Vac Acc Payout, Per Diem, Excess DC Co. Contribution, etc = $74,789 16% 401k DC = $40,500 Total Compensation = $483,497 Total Block = 624 Hrs. Average 16 Days Off per Month Live in base 10 Months Short Call Reserve, 2 Months a Line Flew quite a bit of Premium (Some months averaging 150-180 credit) Biggest blessing is baby #2 on the way in a few days if all goes well Happy Holidays |
Originally Posted by CenterlinePrep
(Post 3560079)
AA 737 CA - 9th Yr
Flight Pay (Including Premium) = $368,208 Sick/Vac Acc Payout, Per Diem, Excess DC Co. Contribution, etc = $74,789 16% 401k DC = $40,500 Total Compensation = $483,497 Total Block = 624 Hrs. Average 16 Days Off per Month Live in base 10 Months Short Call Reserve, 2 Months a Line Flew quite a bit of Premium (Some months averaging 150-180 credit) Biggest blessing is baby #2 on the way in a few days if all goes well Happy Holidays |
AllYourBaseAreB,
Mostly correct, yes. I’ll edit the days worked portion. |
737 SWA FO
Commute from ATL to Texas bases 604 block hours 125 days on a calendar on duty starting flying or reserve 311 individual actual flight segment legs flown (operate & DH) 226261.73 Earnings exclusive of Company NEC and Profit sharing (flight, sick, vacation, per diem) 33939.26 Company NEC 260200.26 Total Compensation I tried getting on a DL both before and after the merger, but it hasn't work out. Yet. |
Originally Posted by CenterlinePrep
(Post 3560079)
AA 737 CA - 9th Yr
Flight Pay (Including Premium) = $368,208 Sick/Vac Acc Payout, Per Diem, Excess DC Co. Contribution, etc = $74,789 16% 401k DC = $40,500 Total Compensation = $483,497 Total Block = 624 Hrs. Average 16 Days Off per Month Live in base 10 Months Short Call Reserve, 2 Months a Line Flew quite a bit of Premium (Some months averaging 150-180 credit) Biggest blessing is baby #2 on the way in a few days if all goes well Happy Holidays congrats man! |
F9 7th year CA
$417,000 W2 (includes vacation sell back/premium) $40,500 401k $16,800 cash over cap $6,800 per diem $481,100 total comp Blocked 886, I live in base, and I work the system. |
Originally Posted by CenterlinePrep
(Post 3560079)
Biggest blessing is baby #2 on the way in a few days if all goes well Happy Holidays |
AA 9th yr FO
$244,155 (includes all pay, perdiem, vaca, etc..) $38,189 DC 401k $20,500 Roth 401k contributions total = $302,844 total block hrs = 503 live in base, mix of SC RSV and line holder by choice 18 days avg month of not flying days(some of those are SC days not used) try to work system for max pay per day worked vs block and TAFB, PM some months, zero others. |
Originally Posted by Dobbs18
(Post 3560338)
AA 9th yr FO
$244,155 (includes all pay, perdiem, vaca, etc..) $38,189 DC 401k $20,500 Roth 401k contributions total = $302,844 total block hrs = 503 live in base, mix of SC RSV and line holder by choice 18 days avg month of not flying days(some of those are SC days not used) try to work system for max pay per day worked vs block and TAFB, PM some months, zero others. |
Originally Posted by MonkeyChunk
(Post 3560377)
Isn’t the $20.5k Roth your own contributions, ie already included in the $244k pay? Or is that some sort of cash over cap?
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WN 7th yr pay
first 3 months on ExTO so I didnt get any of that sweet 1.5 or double pay. Total earnings 195k. of that per diem 4k and a fun fact of 586.39 for red eye override. NEC of 29k for a grand total of 224k. 517 hrs block. Try to only work 12 days a month. Live in base |
12 Year SCA CPT
335.1k Wages 40.5k Company 401k Contribution 9.3k Per Diem 384.9k Total 590 block hours 1253 hours paid 1 month reserve 1 month sick leave otherwise would have been easily over 400k total compensation. |
Originally Posted by Dobbs18
(Post 3560462)
you are probably right, it’s not a cash over cap….I usually hit the personal contribution cap of 20.5k in Oct then that after tax deduction just stays in my paycheck…nice little pay bump at the end of the year. I haven’t quite made enough to hit the combined max with the company’s 16% DC yet…also I’m a NB FO
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Originally Posted by AirTranSkyGod
(Post 3560133)
737 SWA FO
Commute from ATL to Texas bases 604 block hours 125 days on a calendar on duty starting flying or reserve 311 individual actual flight segment legs flown (operate & DH) 226261.73 Earnings exclusive of Company NEC and Profit sharing (flight, sick, vacation, per diem) 33939.26 Company NEC 260200.26 Total Compensation I tried getting on a DL both before and after the merger, but it hasn't work out. Yet. Year of longevity? |
Originally Posted by dsevo
(Post 3560761)
Look into “automatic in-plan conversion”. You can easily hit the combined max. The personal max is a fake limit.
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
(Post 3560811)
This^^ everyone that has a plan that allows after tax contributions has the ability to max out the combined limit each year.
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Originally Posted by Extenda
(Post 3560888)
but if it’s after tax isn’t it just the same as investing your own post-tax money in whatever you want? What’s the benefit of putting after tax money into a 401k?
This only works for companies that offer “automatic in-plan conversion” and cash over cap. |
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