Originally Posted by Boeingdude

There's another reason to keep 2 of us up there and no one is addressing the Elephant in the room, and it's not because of age 67 etc.

Originally Posted by nene

That is why most believe if/when it ever goes to one pilot it will take an emergency with a release from ground control for any person in the cockpit to exercise control airborne.

Originally Posted by nene

That is why most believe if/when it ever goes to one pilot it will take an emergency with a release from ground control for any person in the cockpit to exercise control airborne.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

Sure. But our profession is more complicated than medicine, lots of unpredictability and uncertainty... if you go down the medical road, you're going to end up in a good place one way or another. But if a young person (or potential career changer) talks to career airline pilots, they'll get mixed reviews at best, largely due to past instability.

Law is more like airlines, lower barriers to entry but also hard to make it to the top tier. For every major firm partner, there are 1000 junior associates putting in 80 hour weeks, and public defenders and strip mall ambulance chasers who qualify for food stamps.

When I was mentioning ab initio as a solution, I was speaking from the POV of the people who have the problem: airlines.

I'm not advocating that pilot groups/unions should be facilitating or encouraging paid training pipelines (it's out of our hands regardless, since union jurisdiction only extends back to day one of indoc). Although at some point if growth (or negative growth) gets bad enough due to pilot shortage, we might actually have an incentive to help generate new pilots.

Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot

The free market handles these things pretty well. Pay will increase until there is enough incentive to meet the demand, or demand will fall to meet the current supply. Alot of that is dependent on the health of the economy.

Originally Posted by CBreezy

Then GI bill is backwards with this. You only get $15k per year in benefits for vocational flight training. It should take a veteran 6 years to use the GI Bill to complete flight training

Originally Posted by Swakid8

Yet, if a Vet wanted to use his benefits to the fullest extent. You enroll into a Part 141 University where it covers 100 percent tuition and fees and get paid E5 BAH and knock flight training out in 2 to 3 years…..

Originally Posted by Swakid8

Yet, if a Vet wanted to use his benefits to the fullest extent. You enroll into a Part 141 University where it covers 100 percent tuition and fees and get paid E5 BAH and knock flight training out in 2 to 3 years…..

Originally Posted by CBreezy

Assuming you need a degree. And flight training only takes 6 months to a year max. Your quoted university program takes 100-200% longer