Age 67 bill
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Nobody ever said that about age 60, age 60 was a political hack job by the CEO of AA to get rid of troublesome senior CA's who happened to be union agitators.
When it came time to raise the age to 65, the FAA naturally had to consider any safety ramifications, they do that for any regulatory relaxation.
Age 65 limit is more reasonably about safety.
When it came time to raise the age to 65, the FAA naturally had to consider any safety ramifications, they do that for any regulatory relaxation.
Age 65 limit is more reasonably about safety.
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Age 67 is very slightly less safe than age 65.
Age 65 is slightly less safe than age 60, which is less safe than age 30.
Again, there's some grey area before safety drops off dramatically and we're already in it. Will we go deeper into it?
IDK, but it will be a political call for sure. Mayor Pete has already stated that he'll put the boomer pilots out to pasture, his words not mine.
"The answer is not to keep the baby boomer generation in the cockpit indefinitely,"
Age 65 is slightly less safe than age 60, which is less safe than age 30.
Again, there's some grey area before safety drops off dramatically and we're already in it. Will we go deeper into it?
IDK, but it will be a political call for sure. Mayor Pete has already stated that he'll put the boomer pilots out to pasture, his words not mine.
"The answer is not to keep the baby boomer generation in the cockpit indefinitely,"
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And 23 is plenty young enough to be an airline CA as it is, no need to go lower there.
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The airlines wasted the 5 extra years to do anything to prepare for this. Wages came up only in reaction to supply issues. In 2015 regionals still paid 26-30 bucks an hour and many LCCs were still under 60k first year, some still are! 🤡
... meanwhile the cost of training keeps going up... this career just needs to pay more 🤷🏼♂️
... meanwhile the cost of training keeps going up... this career just needs to pay more 🤷🏼♂️
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It's normal for the young guys to keep the age at 65 so they can move up, it's also normal for the older guys to want to have the chance to keep flying. I guess will see if Congress passes the bill. No one has addressed the elephant in the room. Will you pass your medical as you get older?
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That's the downside for the airlines. It's long-term and won't go away.
The upside is that it delays the retirement bubble, giving them more time to do the planning they should have done ten years ago. That's a temporary problem, no matter how painful.
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