Amex Platinum, lounge access non rev
01-16-2024, 03:33 PM
#42
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Originally Posted by Stan446
So screwing over paying passengers by filling the lounge up and having them stand in line is ok because you are non rev. Got it.
Delta doesn't allow employees anymore and Amex Centurion has been turning away non-revs for ages now, so IDK where your heartburn over this is?
01-16-2024, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Stan446
So screwing over paying passengers by filling the lounge up and having them stand in line is ok because you are non rev. Got it.
01-16-2024, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 170Till5
AA and United let non-revs in their lounge, they have no issues. Priority pass lounges let non-revs in, they have no problems. Delta employees volunteered during Covid to keep the lounges running and cleaned them, and they were shunned away after… quit being a prick because we fly for free, perk of the job
01-17-2024, 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 170Till5
AA and United let non-revs in their lounge, they have no issues. Priority pass lounges let non-revs in, they have no problems. Delta employees volunteered during Covid to keep the lounges running and cleaned them, and they were shunned away after… quit being a prick because we fly for free, perk of the job
01-17-2024, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Stan446
Perk of the job is making your business class paying customers stand in line for the lounge while non paying employees are in the lounge? I guess you being a prick is a part of your job.
How should a FedEx pilot who uses FedEx money to buy their business class ticket rank in line to get in as compared to a FedEx pilot who bought a business class ticket for a vacation with their own money? How about a FedEx pilot who blew miles earned from FedEx-paid tickets for company deadheads? How about a pax carrier pilot who purchased a business class ticket with their internal 20% discount? Or, a pax carrier pilot deadheading transoceanic, which requires a lie flat seat per their contact?
01-17-2024, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by thrust
Clearly Amex doesn’t care, as long as you have a seat assignment. Most pax carriers I know of don’t give non-revs seat assignments until inside of an hour from departure, so not much time to use a Centurion Lounge anyway.
How should a FedEx pilot who uses FedEx money to buy their business class ticket rank in line to get in as compared to a FedEx pilot who bought a business class ticket for a vacation with their own money? How about a FedEx pilot who blew miles earned from FedEx-paid tickets for company deadheads? How about a pax carrier pilot who purchased a business class ticket with their internal 20% discount? Or, a pax carrier pilot deadheading transoceanic, which requires a lie flat seat per their contact?
How should a FedEx pilot who uses FedEx money to buy their business class ticket rank in line to get in as compared to a FedEx pilot who bought a business class ticket for a vacation with their own money? How about a FedEx pilot who blew miles earned from FedEx-paid tickets for company deadheads? How about a pax carrier pilot who purchased a business class ticket with their internal 20% discount? Or, a pax carrier pilot deadheading transoceanic, which requires a lie flat seat per their contact?
Most people in lounge are on business travel. They write off the business travel as cost of doing business. This lowers the taxes their business pays. So the lounge (and business class) is full of tax cheats. The non-revs are actually being hit with imputed income to pay more taxes on.
Anyone that meets the requirements of the lounge gets in. Doesn't matter if they are a non-rev or cheat on their taxes. All the same. If the airline wants to restrict non-rev travellers thats their perogitive- I just won't pay for the card if they are going to tell me they don't let non-rev travelers in. Plenty of other options that do allow non-revs, or I can play the game of buying a refundable business class ticket and cancel it after I get in the lounge if I think its worth it.
01-17-2024, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FyrePilot
The other guy thinks he is the lounge police.
Most people in lounge are on business travel. They write off the business travel as cost of doing business. This lowers the taxes their business pays. So the lounge (and business class) is full of tax cheats. The non-revs are actually being hit with imputed income to pay more taxes on.
Anyone that meets the requirements of the lounge gets in. Doesn't matter if they are a non-rev or cheat on their taxes. All the same. If the airline wants to restrict non-rev travellers thats their perogitive- I just won't pay for the card if they are going to tell me they don't let non-rev travelers in. Plenty of other options that do allow non-revs, or I can play the game of buying a refundable business class ticket and cancel it after I get in the lounge if I think it’s worth it.
Most people in lounge are on business travel. They write off the business travel as cost of doing business. This lowers the taxes their business pays. So the lounge (and business class) is full of tax cheats. The non-revs are actually being hit with imputed income to pay more taxes on.
Anyone that meets the requirements of the lounge gets in. Doesn't matter if they are a non-rev or cheat on their taxes. All the same. If the airline wants to restrict non-rev travellers thats their perogitive- I just won't pay for the card if they are going to tell me they don't let non-rev travelers in. Plenty of other options that do allow non-revs, or I can play the game of buying a refundable business class ticket and cancel it after I get in the lounge if I think it’s worth it.
01-17-2024, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Spif
Definitely understandable to not want to pay for any card you don’t deem worth it. Just wanted to say they’re not cheating on taxes. It’s completely legal.
It's also completely legal for me to buy a refundable business class ticket, cancel it as soon as I am past the front desk because I changed my mind about the trip, and take advantage of the lounge.
It's just an example for the poor guy trying to protect revenue passenger rights by complaining about nonrevs in the lounge.
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