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Old 09-08-2025 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Softheborder
whole lot of opinion there. Everyone has one. Agree to disagree.
Look at that, you didn't refute a single point or offer counter arguments.

Classic.
Old 09-08-2025 | 06:31 PM
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Funny how everyone who "doesn't care one way or the other" lays out a whole lot of 67 arguments.

Probably "Libertarian", too. 🤣
Old 09-08-2025 | 09:30 PM
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I second these testimonies. I too have witnessed and most likely flown with those same guys.

Maybe, we stop sharing gouges for recurrents and watch the failure rates skyrocket among those folk who are still 5 manual revisions behind, don't care, and make up their own procedures as they go.. because, "that's how we did it on the Super 80." Really makes trapping one's errors that much harder when nothing they do is standard.
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Flew once with a guy who was 73 and his motto was “who cares, what are they going to do fire me/take my license? I’ll just retire.” Thanks for wanting me to go down with your sinking ship *********.
They've unironically embraced becoming Lord Farquadt: "some of you may die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make".
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If there are significant cognitive issues or performance degradation with older pilots, surely you have the data to back up your claims, correct? If this was true, there would be identifiable significant failure rates or significant training issues with older pilots conducting simulator training for 121/135/91K initial, recurrent, transition and line checks.

Where are all the FSAP, ASAP & NASA reports documenting these so called claims? How many pilots have walked off airplanes or refuse to fly with these so called older pilots with these age related issues?

Are there a small minority of pilots of ALL ages who slip through the cracks, yes. However, if what you all claim was true, there would be irrefutable data to back up your so called older pilots related performance issues.


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Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator
If there are significant cognitive issues or performance degradation with older pilots, surely you have the data to back up your claims, correct? If this was true, there would be identifiable significant failure rates or significant training issues with older pilots conducting simulator training for 121/135/91K initial, recurrent, transition and line checks.

Where are all the FSAP, ASAP & NASA reports documenting these so called claims? How many pilots have walked off airplanes or refuse to fly with these so called older pilots with these age related issues?

Are there a small minority of pilots of ALL ages who slip through the cracks, yes. However, if what you all claim was true, there would be irrefutable data to back up your so called older pilots related performance issues.
Lots of survivorship bias in here. Can't get the data on the individuals that have had significant enough mental and physical decline to lose their medical so they're not flying. But every company has the LTD data. The older you get the more likely you are to go out and the less likely you are to return.
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Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator
If there are significant cognitive issues or performance degradation with older pilots, surely you have the data to back up your claims, correct? If this was true, there would be identifiable significant failure rates or significant training issues with older pilots conducting simulator training for 121/135/91K initial, recurrent, transition and line checks.

Where are all the FSAP, ASAP & NASA reports documenting these so called claims? How many pilots have walked off airplanes or refuse to fly with these so called older pilots with these age related issues?

Are there a small minority of pilots of ALL ages who slip through the cracks, yes. However, if what you all claim was true, there would be irrefutable data to back up your so called older pilots related performance issues.
Just look at insurance policies for your data. They've been jacking up premiums on 65+ and especially 70+ and it's affecting lots of flight departments out there in the corporate world. It even prompted Netjets and their management company EJM to institute a mandatory retirement age. Having flown with that demographic as well in my 91/135 days, it's not a matter of bad apples that slip through the cracks. They all have issues. Some are better at dealing with it than others, but I had a much easier time flying with newly upgraded 1500 hour Captains as an FO and with 500 hour FOs as a Captain.
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Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator
If there are significant cognitive issues or performance degradation with older pilots, surely you have the data to back up your claims, correct? If this was true, there would be identifiable significant failure rates or significant training issues with older pilots conducting simulator training for 121/135/91K initial, recurrent, transition and line checks.

Where are all the FSAP, ASAP & NASA reports documenting these so called claims? How many pilots have walked off airplanes or refuse to fly with these so called older pilots with these age related issues?

Are there a small minority of pilots of ALL ages who slip through the cracks, yes. However, if what you all claim was true, there would be irrefutable data to back up your so called older pilots related performance issues.
Yeah, aging and cognitive decline is a myth.
All people become mentally sharper after 60.
Nobody has ever had to take the keys away from grandpa, because grandpa would immediately recognize his mental decline, swallow his pride, and accept it.
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Originally Posted by 180ToAJ
Yeah, aging and cognitive decline is a myth.
All people become mentally sharper after 60.
Nobody has ever had to take the keys away from grandpa, because grandpa would immediately recognize his mental decline, swallow his pride, and accept it.
I never figured out why so many Formula One drivers were 66 year old retired airline pilots until I understood that they had unfairly been cheated out of an extra two years of flying after already getting an extra 5 and had to look for other lines of work suitable to their experience and acuity. The younger drivers appreciate the mentorship though, which is a nice benefit to the racing community.
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Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator
If there are significant cognitive issues or performance degradation with older pilots, surely you have the data to back up your claims, correct? If this was true, there would be identifiable significant failure rates or significant training issues with older pilots conducting simulator training for 121/135/91K initial, recurrent, transition and line checks.
go shop for general aviation insurance after 65
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